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US forces seize oil tanker off Venezuela coast
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we need to organize a bit harder, everyone. seriously!
You all are sleep walking into another forever war nobody wants. I implore everyone to read your own and Latin American history from the last 50 years. It's not taught.
https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/901/The-School-of-the-AmericasMilitary-Training-and (Ask Anna for a copy.)
https://soaw.org/notorious-soa-graduates
do you think i should study a bit more socialist theory, and is there any way i can study in layperson's terms without losing focus quickly?
No, I read that book (The School of the Americas by Leslie Gill) before I knew what socialism was in a Political Theory of Latin America class. It radicalized me and I have used it to radicalize ex military confused libertarians and liberals. It is good without theory, it is pure history. If you read enough history, you can passively get theory via trends and vice versa. That is ultimately what they discuss anyway if the author is decent, via materialist analysis (though that obviously brings its own problems). I am happy to send audio and pdfs as needed to whomever. I am not sure if there is an audiobook of this one, but I am due a refresher regardless.
like i wanna study for socialist theory, but there's something about it makes my head spin. do you have any tips on "studying in layperson's terms"?
Listen to that voice and read this: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/russell-means-for-america-to-live-europe-must-die That voice is telling you something very real and important. Trust yourself.
i mean the text - i've heard of a study method which taking long paragraphs and boiling them down into very short ones. however, sometimes i CAN'T find the right words to a point where i prefer NOT to say anything. do you have any tips?
To summarise the text I attached... Trust the resistance. If it feels like you are forcing something that doesn't fit, that is probably what you are doing. What are you actually trying to learn? Not "study theory" but what do you want to understand?
learning about socialism and studying it without losing focus quickly or having my head spin. seriously!
You keep asking “how do I get better at the thing that doesn’t work for me” and I am saying “stop doing the thing because it isn't the only or 'correct' way of doing things," not that there is a correct way. You aren't asking the right questions or starting with questions if you are stuck here. Start figuring you what you want to know.
what do you mean by that?
You keep asking me: "How do I study theory better?" But, theory, as you say, makes your head spin. You lose focus. You can't find words to summarize it. So my question back is: Why are you trying to force yourself to study theory? What do you actually want to understand? Not "I want to study socialism," because socialism itself is just a method. Socialism is a tool, not an answer. A hammer without a nail. What questions do you have? What do you want to know about the world? What problems do you care about and want to solve? What do you care about and why? Once you know what you want to understand, learning becomes effortless.
ps: always happy to soundboard :)
Organize against what, exactly?
The way I see it, it's two assholes fighting. (Edit: two asshole governments, I meant. The Venezuelan people are innocent and shouldn't be involved in that conflict. That was my point).
Both suck and are responsible of crisis and death of their own country people. Let them fight, then. Though I know Venezuela doesn't stand a chance, unfortunately.
Whatever the situation is in Venezula, it's not going to be a good thing for America to get entangled.
Hussein was a pretty bad dude, but our intervention in Iraq ultimately was bad for America and didn't exactly make things in Iraq better.
you're aware who does the actual fighting and whom the bombs will be raining on??
Of course I'm aware! And that invalidates my point how?
Venezuelans unfortunately don't stand a chance against the U.S. They couldn't oust Maduro, for crying out loud.
I hope Venezuelans, the people, don't suffer much. I hate that there is war looming on them.
But the two governments involved? Fuck them.
Replying to your shit take as soap box to answer your question and remind everyone that one the things we should be organizing is a GENERAL STRIKE
GeneralStrikeUS.com
Congratulations to Portugal for committing to a GENERAL STRIKE and gaining massive leverage: https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/portugal-general-strike-stalls-transport-closes-schools-labour-reform-protest-2025-12-11/
Who are you replying to?
It wouldn't be a fight, it would be a massacre. Untold thousands dead, millions of refugees. Knowing this, how could you possibly wish for it?
I guess that's how my point came across, but that's not what I meant. No, I wish no war on Venezuela because of what you just said.
I was replying to the poster who said "Venezuelan people! Fight!" Fight?! For the government that maimed them in the first place? No. Let the two governments fight if they want. Regular Venezuelans should flee if they can.
Ah yes you are displaying the kind of intelligence the US military favours in its recruits. Non at all.
I won't say my grammar is perfect, but I do try not to misspell things and insult other people's intelligence at the same time.
You seem to be under the deluded impression that a war between two people only affects those two people, so yeah I'm insulting your intelligence. Do you even know what a war is, I know that's a stupid question but I'm seriously asking because it sounds like you don't?
Whatever dude. I know what I'm talking about because I lived in Venezuela at a time when they tried to oust Chávez, and failed miserably.
Great for you but that's got nothing to do with what we were talking about which was you thinking that a war between Venezuela and the United States would be a good thing.
edit: actually I misremembered. The OP said that "we" needed to organize better. I guess meaning to say organize better to stop this war on its tracks.
I guess I can agree with that.
would there a marxist revolution against both maduro and trump in venezuela? NOT repeating any US state department talking points (looking at you, hexbear!), just asking. seriously!
Why would there be a Marxist revolution in Venezuela if they already have a Bolivarian revolution going on? Venezuela is an extremely grassroots country, more than 10% of the state budget is allocated to local committees to spend however they democratically desire from what I gather. Tens of thousands of Venezuelans are actually enlisting as volunteers this past month to the country's militias to defend the country from possible American invasion.
Uh, the current Venezuelan government is marxist. They borrowed Cuba and Russia's playbook.
well their ideology is "socialism of the 21st century" which states that both socialism of the 20th century and capitalism failed to solve problems such as poverty, oppression, hunger, corruption and hatefulness and such. seriously!
Sure. That slogan is as true as North Korea's offical name: Democratic People's Republic of Korea.