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And where are you from? And how old? Not "do you" but just if you know how.

I'm in the US, mid 30s and can (and do) drive a manual transmission.

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[-] Valdair@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

This thread is an amusing display of sample bias. Only people that want to respond yes and brag about it bothering to respond.

In reality only about 2/3rds of people in the US can drive stick and almost no one owns manual cars.

I've never driven a manual car. I've had people be like "You can't drive manual?!" and then I would respond "So are you going to teach me?" The answer is always No, of course not, not in their car (assuming they even owned a manual, which none do anymore). My parents had manual cars but sold them 10+ years before having me.

I understand how a clutch works. It wouldn't be difficult to learn. But what reason or motivation is there to learn when almost no cars are manual? They total something like 2% of new car sales. If you're buying something like a 718 GT4 RS or a 911 GT3 RS for maximum driving engagement that's great, but those cars are priced for the 1% of the 1%.

Even if you had a fun car, which I do, the drive to work is stop-and-go, roads are full, even the fun country backroads are filled with traffic on weekends, forests are burned down, gas is eye-watteringly expensive if you have a slightly performant vehicle. The time to have fun driving cars was 40 years ago.

[-] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Only people that want to respond yes and brag about it

How can you brag about being able to drive a manual car? It's a basic life skill that almost everyone has (at least here in Europe). It would be like bragging you're able to tie your shoe laces. My 70 year old mom drives a manual.

It used to be the other way around: since manual is the norm here, the only people who drove an automatic were those with some kind of physical or mental disability. If you drove an automatic people would assume something was wrong with you. Nowadays this stigma no longer exists and manual transmissions are becoming more accepted, but still uncommon outside of EVs.

I would respond โ€œSo are you going to teach me?โ€

Is that even allowed? Here you either do your driving test in a manual, in which case you already know how to drive one, or you do your test in an automatic and you aren't allowed to drive a manual. You'd have to take lessons (with a licensed instructor) and do a new driving exam.

Driving an automatic when you're not used to it can also be quite scary as half the controls you need to operate the car are missing. Took me a while to get over the feeling of not being able to stop the car, it feels super weird to just keep the brake pressed until it stops without it stalling.

[-] Valdair@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

In the USA licenses are not contingent upon manual vs. automatic. No one checks what car you drive. So you would have to learn somewhere - someone around you has to own a manual car in order for you to learn how to drive one, and here simply no one does. No one in my entire extended family, none of my friends, none of my coworkers I'm friendly with, none of the 50+ cars I have any tangential access to are manual. So even if I wanted to learn, what are my options? Buy an entire car just to learn? Services like Turo won't let you rent one unless you can drive one already.

We have Driver's Education in high school but it involves no actual driving - there are separate paid/private courses you can take that might involve defensive driving or learning stick. I did one on controlling skids on wet or snowy pavement and demonstrating e.g. turning under braking with and without ABS. But nothing about manual.

[-] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

So even if I wanted to learn, what are my options? Buy an entire car just to learn?

I would expect the driving school to have a manual. That's how it works here. It doesn't matter what car your family or friends own, you can't take driving lessons in an unmodified car anyway. You need a car with dual controls and a licensed instructor.

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