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America into a re-vitalized, progressive nation with strong social welfare. (This may sound absurd, but I have a whole set of reasonings and indicators supporting this that are too long to elaborate here)

How'd that one work out?

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

So what happens to all the ideological fascists we've seen grow over the last 20 or so years? At what point do they stop growing and why don't they play a major part in any of this? Does Biden murder them all or do re-education programs?

The entire thesis of Marx about the development of capitalism and its contradictions giving way to socialism would have to be wrong.

It was wrong in that he believed it would happen in advanced industrialised countries rather than those that are at the highest level of exploitation. This was his euro exceptionalist brainworms talking at the time.

[-] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

The answer to your question is surprisingly simple: the fascists are beaten by… the socialists!

Is it so hard to believe that fascists, with their liberal backers weakened, cannot be defeated handily by socialists?

Once again, the conditions by that point would be completely different than the ones we are in today. Think about it this way: the imagined scenario presumes that the parasite (finance capital) has run out of hosts to feed on (industrial capital), at which point it would be at its weakest.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Their backers aren't weakened. Industrial and manufacturing labour simply exists where it previously did not. Their backers retain all the money and power they always had on top of gaining a far greater incentive to invest in fascists as an opposition to the growing labour movement.

Socialists will not win under these conditions, against half a country already fascist that only needs organising, and a political structure that is already seeing true believer fascists funded by democrats and getting into power. You think Florida is magically going to stop being fascist after what has been done to it? When? Why? What is happening with all the fascists? Nothing is. They've been on a path of growth for 35 years now and they will continue on this path.

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