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For those who aren't familiar with the term, it means believing something that probably shouldn't be believed, or being influenced to believe something that's not necessarily in your best interests.

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I drank the atheist nihilistic hedonism kool aid when I was a kid (Christianity is too contradictory and that soured my view on belief in general) and I didn't get out of that "lol I just wanna have fun, what's personal responsibility?!" Ideological hole until my mid 20s. 🥲

[-] Denjin@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

"Nothing matters so just have a good time" doesn't necessarily mean you also can't be a "good" person.

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At some point your hedonistic desires clash with moral frameworks and you don't do the wrong thing, best case scenario. "Nothing matters so just have a good time" erases that paradigm/doesn't allow for one to exist in the first place. You're going mostly on vibes and maybe more money means you could get nicer things and comfier toys and have more fun so you start your OF/sell drugs/scam your way into millions and now you scam more because you're the prez of the free world (lol)... get it?

[-] Denjin@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

I get your point but being nice to people and acting in a fair and moral way feels good to most people, myself included so I don't personally see nihilistic self fulfillment and moral behaviour as mutually exclusive (in most cases, billionaires not included).

But at some point, when virtue doesn't taste as nice as forgoing it, you'll fall. And you might have not had you had some form of moral framework in place and not just our inner "noble savage" nature.

[-] Denjin@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago

How do theists rationalise this when they do awful things like buggering children?

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They don't, those who transgress in those ways never believed in God's judgment (or suddenly developed some brain tumor that radically changed their behaviour, but that's mega rare, lol). They just say they do, and those who don't know how to judge people (by their fruits!) keep getting swindled. I'm sure Trump has made allusions to being somewhat religious lol, you don't think he believes in any of that, right?

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