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[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think it was a choice. See for instance nord stream. There are other ways the US can blackmail us too, but especially now with ukraine firmly under US control there is no way to get oil into europe without having it first pass US control. Via Turkey or Ukraine and both ways are US controlled.

I wouldn't think the bourgeoisie gives two shits about the unity and allyship among the nations of the "civilized west". That's the line they try to feed us. If they can turn a profit they would buy russian oil no second thoughts.

[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even with Nordstream, choices were made. The choice to not seriously investigate the attack and purposely not look for the real culprits. The choice not to repair it. The choice not to use the still intact second Nordstream pipeline, which Russia has been saying they were open to resuming supplies through since the attack happened. The Russians repeatedly said that they were ready to provide Germany with gas through the second pipeline if Germany wanted it. Germany is the one that declined, not Russia.

Nobody forced the EU to adopt nineteen sanctions packages. Nobody forced the EU to declare that they would no longer import Russian oil and gas. Hungary for example still imports Russian oil and gas, partly through Turkey and partly through the Druzhba pipeline. The US doesn't control the pipeline through Turkey. Turkey is in NATO but it has autonomy and continues to facilitate that transit because they benefit from it. They would even have had alternatives from the Middle East if they did not choose to help the US devastate the entire region. Europeans actively participated in the destruction of Libya and Syria.

Even now with the US having effectively stopped funding Ukraine directly, nobody is forcing the Europeans to keep bankrolling Ukraine, buying US weapons for Ukraine with European money. Without that European money Ukraine would collapse within a couple of months, there would be a period of instability, yes, but eventually things would calm down and supplies through Ukraine could resume. Europe would simply have to accept that Russia has a say in European security arrangements. Yet because of their racism they would rather destroy their own countries than admit that the Russians have won.

The Europeans behave like this not because they have to, but because the leadership are ideologically invested and politically committed. They are like a gambler deep in the hole whose only hope to recover their losses is to keep upping the ante. Even though a lot of European capital interests would prefer to go back to doing business with Russia, the problem is that most of the people in charge, the European political elite, are true believers. They are fanatics, products of US indoctrination which was more successful on Europeans than even on the Americans themselves.

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