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Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to 'shut up' (www.reuters.com)

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 68 points 2 years ago

Everyone point & laugh at the sad tankie in this thread.

[-] balls_expert@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 years ago

Damn we don't see them on blahaj :<

[-] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 years ago

Lucky

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

Has blahaj banned hexbear?

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

So has beehaw.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 2 years ago

Blahaj is an alt-right uber conservatives instance that has attacked and libeled anyone further left than Ronald Regan.

[-] LoopingRiver@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I can always tell when I’m browsing Lemmy from my lemm.ee account vs lemmy.world by the sheer number of tankies spouting nonsense.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

the most intellectually advanced liberal has logged on

[+] ATiredPhilosopher@lemmygrad.ml -23 points 2 years ago

Any actual rebuttal or just gonna roll out the usual libshit jab and run along? America has blood on its hands for a lot of things, it found out once and might find out again if it isn't careful.

[-] vokkez@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

What exactly do you think it found out?

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

A shitload of oil

[-] ATiredPhilosopher@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 2 years ago

That if you spend decades destabilising a region in the name of oil, occasionally the people that are getting shit on will do something about it.

[-] vokkez@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Okay but how did the US find out?

[-] ATiredPhilosopher@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

What do you think 9/11 was?

[-] vokkez@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I think 9/11 was a terrorist attack by a fundamentalist Islamic terrorist organization motivated by Bin Laden issuing fatāwā against America for stationing troops in Saudi Arabia and for supporting Israel. I think Bin Laden stating that he believed that it was a justified attack because of America's support for Israel points pretty solidly at the motivation behind the attacks:

"...it was a response to injustice, aimed at forcing America to stop its support for Israel..."

Also this from his video where he admits that he was behind the attacks and says that he was motivated by Israel bombing Lebanon

"...it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted..."

Interested in why you think oil had anything to do with 9/11. The destabilizing countries for oil stuff mostly came after 9/11. Middle Eastern hatred for America was mainly fueled by our support for Israel, and partially because Saudi Arabia had American military bases. Oil was not an interest to these terrorist groups until after Iraq.

Sources for those quotes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1729882.stm

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2004/11/1/full-transcript-of-bin-ladins-speech

[-] ATiredPhilosopher@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

America was there for the oil, the destability came as a result and that came well before 9/11. Anyway, it'd be great if they'd stop meddling in everyone's business for their own selfish reasons and that includes the endless NATO sabre rattling under the guise of fReEdOm.

[-] vokkez@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Where? Israel? They don't have any oil. We have had bases in Saudi Arabia since the 80s because they were one of the more stable Middle Eastern nations and because they were extremely anti-communist which made them good allies at the time. If you want to insist we were there for oil then we were there to make sure the Soviets didn't get their oil. We expanded our presence there during the Gulf War because they have a border with Iraq and maintained that expanded presence until 9/11, at which point it expanded further to serve as a hub for Middle Eastern operations.