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What do you mean the range isn't there yet? How often do you travel 300+ miles between a charge?
I would 2-3 times a year. And when I did it would be probably 3 charges in each direction, maybe 4 considering heat and a/c and several suitcases of weight. Enough that it wouldn't be convenient, but that's why we'll keep an ICE van around for a while yet.
So you choose to inconvenience yourself 2-3 times a month because of something you only do 2-3 times a year? I get people who complain about range when they take road trips every month or live in very cold climates or have long commutes, but 2-3 times a year you can rent a car for the money you would save on gas and maintenance.
No idea what you're talking about, but it's our second vehicle. Primary is a Volt, so PHEV with the longest range. Most days we use no gas because I work from home and we only use the van a couple times a week when the kids need to be in different places at the same time.
Why not use the Volt for the long trips? It uses gas.
Too small. I mean it holds an impressive amount, but I can't take my wife, a 13 year old, and an 11 year old on a week vacation in it.
Every time I go home to see my family, I’d have to stop halfway and sit at a charger for a bit. That’s why I own a hybrid now since electric doesn’t meet my needs and EVs are still so damned expensive
Why don't you just fly?
No airport in villages in the middle of nowhere my dude. Nearest airport I could get a flight into is an hour+ away and I’d have to drive at least 45 minutes to an airport small enough to fly into it. The only real feasible way to get there is drive since America refuses to build non-freight trains
Welp, sounds like you drive waaaaaaaaay more than the average. You live in the middle of the wilderness and frequently drive 500 miles each way. You're an edge case so it's gonna be a while before a solution is developed for you.
Fortunately, there's few enough people in your position that if only the people who drive such an extraordinary amount use ICE vehicles, it will be a tiny contribution to climate change.
If your daily driving is <50 miles or so, a plug-in hybrid is a good option. That way you only burn gas on those long trips.
For much of the Midwest it’s like this, younger generations move to the cities but our parents/grandparents are out in the wilderness still. Yea I have to drive 300 miles to get to them, but that’s far from unique for millennials in the cities
300 miles is almost the entire length of Kansas. And to make that trip often enough that stopping at a supercharger is a hassle? Yeah, that's abnormal.
Idk what to say, these trips aren’t thought of as much by midwesterners that didn’t grow up in the cities. There are half a dozen from my graduating class of 70 that also came to the same city as me and make similar trips at least once a month back home, you’ve got holidays, births, weddings, funerals, all of those are a 300 mile each way trip. Hybrid is the best kid tof us can do right now, America refuses to build trains and airplanes can’t be expected to have flights to the middle of nowhere