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Donald Trump on Monday, January 19 threatened 200% tariffs on French wine and champagne over France's intentions to decline the US leader's invitation to join his "board of peace." The board was originally conceived to oversee the rebuilding of war-torn Gaza, but the charter does not appear to limit its role to the occupied Palestinian territory.

"I'll put a 200% tariff on his wines and champagnes. And he'll join. But he doesn't have to join," Trump said, referring to French President Emmanuel Macron. A source close to Macron told AFP on Monday that France "does not intend to answer favorably" to the invitation.

The board's charter "goes beyond the sole framework of Gaza," the source close to the French president said.

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You know who else was into collective punishment?

[-] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 week ago

False equivalency.

The argument is that Americans seem to be either happy with or passively accepting what their country has become. If they were truly against Trump and MAGA they would all be in the streets participating in a general strike already.

From the outside, it seems that there is very little resistance.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Are your fucking kidding me? We are all passive? Go tell that to Renee Good's wife and kids. Go tell it to the guy that lost an eye to ICE last week.

Wake the fuck up. And stop fighting Trump and Putin's battles for them. You're no better than my MAGA family members with rhetoric like this being shared here on Lemmy.

I think it's really awful that you're telling Americans to either get themselves killed by the tyrant or be treated as supporters of the tyrant. Just awful.

[-] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 week ago

There is no voting your way out of fascism. The tyrant will have you killed even if you do nothing because he plans on starting a war with everyone else. You might as well go down fighting back.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

What an obtuse way to see the situation in the United States. As if you're using logic derived exclusively from Hollywood movies.

You're either very ignorant about how things work here, or you're deliberately trying to encite anger amongst people who should be allied and united against evil.

Either way, I hope you do better in the future. We are all better than diatribe like this.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some people are so nationalistic that they cannot fathom the concept of some of us not wanting to die for a country we were born into.

Ironic in this situation, but not when you realize these people are either sewing or repeating propaganda designed to divide those of us that oppose what Trump, Putin and other fascists are attempting to accomplish.

[-] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 week ago

If you're so opposed to Trump what are you personally doing to oppose him? I mean other than whinging on social media about him that is.

You Americans act all morally superior towards other people who are stuck living under oppressive dictatorships and expect them to rise up, yet when you're in the same position you get offended when told you need to do the same.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

It's really not a false equivalency. Fascists and people on the wrong side of history very famously and frequently equate governments with the entire people they govern.

You do you, though.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Where do I write I'm into collective punishment?

Right here: "USA as a country is our enemy now, not just the GOP. So in that way it is actually all Americans."

Backpedaling later in your comment doesn't fix this awful take.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's awful yes, but it's a fact.
USA as a country is an enemy, and technically that means all Americans.
If the sane Americans can change things back to normal in USA, this would end.
But as it is, when USA as a country is an enemy, the population of that country becomes an enemy too. Because it's the population that allow the government to function as it does.

I hope you understand that this take puts you in the company of tyrants and fascists, including the Nazis. Your hate is no better than their hate.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not hate, I'm just stating an obvious fact, that USA is now an enemy to democracy and the international rule of law, and also to human rights.
How am I a fascist for pointing out a fundamental problem of USA that goes way beyond Trump?
There are good people in USA, but they are still part of a system that has now become our enemy.

Politically I am very much a moderate, and I have to realize that there is absolutely nothing moderate about USA as a country right now. USA isn't even a real democracy, considering they have only 2 right wing parties. 1 is far right, the other is extreme right.

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