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Virgin Framework vs Chad ThinkPad
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this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2026
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How do you really like it?
I'm considering getting one.
I have a Framework 16, and love it. However, it's probably the priciest bit of tech I've ever purchased (partially my fault for trying to make it as "future proof" as possible while building it).
Great hardware for Linux too, it's wonderful to never have to worry if your hardware will work or not. Bazzite even has an OS image specifically for Framework hardware.
I was running a little low on space last year so I bought a 1tb expansion drive. Took about 30 seconds to install. Didn't even have to turn the laptop off to do it.
Nice! Thanks for your answer.
Not the one you were replying to, but I'm answering you from a Framework 13. It's the best laptop I've owned. It's solid, runs well, is theoretically repairable without having to buy used equipment off ebay, and runs Linux quite well. I've put a few distros on it, and they've all just worked, even the finger print reader.
It's certainly not the best price for performance, but I like the build quality, and it let me bring my own RAM and NVME, which really helped close the price gap.
Thanks! It's interesting to hear folks say that other machines are as powerful and less expensive. The irony is, they're less expensive because they have everything soldered on and designed to be eventual e-waste more quickly.
I wanted a Framework when I was pricing out a new work laptop, but at the time it was going to be months before they'd have what I wanted ready for shipping and I couldn't wait that long. I ended up getting a crazy good deal on a laptop with 64GB of ram. That being said, I still wish I had a Framework compared to this thing.
Whoa, what laptop did you end up getting? 64GB? Nice!
It was an HP Elitebook with 64GB of ram and 1TB nvme drive for $800 (it had stacked discounts at the time). The price then shot up a month later to twice that, so I can't really regret it based on the current ram price insanity. Still, my coworker just got a framework a few months ago and I can't help feeling jealous. I am mostly annoyed by the lack of built in ethernet port, fuck wifi.
Thanks! Yeah, lack of ethernet ports is annoying. I bought a USB adapter to have one.
I mean, I did the same, but I've tried a few now from reputable brands and they keep timing out or just not working properly until I reboot.
not any more 😭
More so now, I still have lots of old RAM laying around. No need to pay markup prices for me.
Not everyone has laptop RAM sticks just lying around
For sure. Working in IT and being a hoarder has its benefits.
they're fine. im not throwing out my first get 13" but im also not upgrading it. i'll use it till it dies and replace it like any other laptop*. it turned out to be a perfectly fine device. i knew going in i was spending extra for the chance it'd be my "last laptop" that'd be periodically upgraded. it's definitely fallen short in daily use. decent enough computer that i dont regret having tried it. but i'd stopped suggesting framework to people long before we found out they're a bunch of assholes.
Yeah…; I was Hell-bent on a Framework being one of my next laptops and telling everyone about them and then that shit dropped. Massively disappointing.
How are they assholes? What did I miss?
TL;DR: Framework is sponsoring Omarchy and Hyprland. Omarchy, at least, is really linked to far-righter DHH; cannot find nearly as much about Hyprland on a quick search besides "toxic".
Jesus Christ, that forum thread in the last link is a shitshow.
I'm not going to be recommending Framework anymore. They clearly don't deserve it.
Thanks for the links.
Well, that's disappointing.
their lack of response to all this was emphasised by leaving all the racist and terfy comments up on the community forums for days. it was like browsing twitter.
Whats the problems with it?
they are a great example of over engineering just to over engineer. lots of neat ideas that dont serve a purpose in the end. the only personal complaint i have is i dont like the trackpad. they tried to look like an apple trackpad but the button resistance wasnt considered. so its uncomforable to me with extended use. ive also had to replace two dead trackpads.
battery life is average. screen is flimsy but looks nice. lots of things are ok, not bad, just ok. without the hype of being repairable its just another macbook air clone you'd only buy after it goes on sale. if they'd allowed the design to be a little bulkier and used stronger parts instead of gimmicks, it could have been something worth its price.
i do like the aspect ratio and keyboard. the magnetic bezel is a great fidget. getting it without ram and ssd was nice. didnt have to toss the preinstalled ones when i put in 32gb and a 4tb ssd. but its not a 'great' laptop its just a laptop.
not the poster but gen 1 framework 13s has a cmos battery issue that when fully depleted, the laptop will not boot from off state because of how the recharge circuit was wired to the battery.
so if your laptop was in sleep for an extremely extended period of time, you wouldnt be able to turn it on without either replacing the cmos battery or soldering a single wire to fix it.
I've had a 12 for a few months now and its a nice low powered, low weight, light use travel machine. Runs pretty nice with kubuntu on it.Generally all around fine though not spectacular a very 5-6/10 machine though that's all I really need from it. Very expensive for what it is though.
My only problems with the Framework 13 are:
It's still my favorite laptop I've owned