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Virgin Framework vs Chad ThinkPad
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they're fine. im not throwing out my first get 13" but im also not upgrading it. i'll use it till it dies and replace it like any other laptop*. it turned out to be a perfectly fine device. i knew going in i was spending extra for the chance it'd be my "last laptop" that'd be periodically upgraded. it's definitely fallen short in daily use. decent enough computer that i dont regret having tried it. but i'd stopped suggesting framework to people long before we found out they're a bunch of assholes.
Yeah…; I was Hell-bent on a Framework being one of my next laptops and telling everyone about them and then that shit dropped. Massively disappointing.
How are they assholes? What did I miss?
TL;DR: Framework is sponsoring Omarchy and Hyprland. Omarchy, at least, is really linked to far-righter DHH; cannot find nearly as much about Hyprland on a quick search besides "toxic".
their lack of response to all this was emphasised by leaving all the racist and terfy comments up on the community forums for days. it was like browsing twitter.
Jesus Christ, that forum thread in the last link is a shitshow.
I'm not going to be recommending Framework anymore. They clearly don't deserve it.
Thanks for the links.
Well, that's disappointing.
Whats the problems with it?
they are a great example of over engineering just to over engineer. lots of neat ideas that dont serve a purpose in the end. the only personal complaint i have is i dont like the trackpad. they tried to look like an apple trackpad but the button resistance wasnt considered. so its uncomforable to me with extended use. ive also had to replace two dead trackpads.
battery life is average. screen is flimsy but looks nice. lots of things are ok, not bad, just ok. without the hype of being repairable its just another macbook air clone you'd only buy after it goes on sale. if they'd allowed the design to be a little bulkier and used stronger parts instead of gimmicks, it could have been something worth its price.
i do like the aspect ratio and keyboard. the magnetic bezel is a great fidget. getting it without ram and ssd was nice. didnt have to toss the preinstalled ones when i put in 32gb and a 4tb ssd. but its not a 'great' laptop its just a laptop.
not the poster but gen 1 framework 13s has a cmos battery issue that when fully depleted, the laptop will not boot from off state because of how the recharge circuit was wired to the battery.
so if your laptop was in sleep for an extremely extended period of time, you wouldnt be able to turn it on without either replacing the cmos battery or soldering a single wire to fix it.