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[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 12 points 1 month ago

That doesn't justify their salary.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"It's not what you know, it's who you know"

Honestly just the fact you can become a coder and get paid for it is impressive, by the historical human society average.

I once worked with an SVP at a huge corporation that liked to engage in "bike shedding". This guy is like seven rungs above me on the ladder and is trying to tell me what fields each SQL table should have.

Then we got a new department director who was very good at keeping upper management distracted and off our backs. Lots of people in middle management don't justify their own salaries but I would argue that he sure did.

I once worked with an SVP at a huge corporation thar liked to micromanage the the team I was on. This guy was like seven rungs above me on the ladder and is trying to tell me how to lay out

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Seems to me, forย  most successful companies, it does. Can you name a few successful companies past 50, making money, that don't have management?ย 

There is little to no evidence, even in academic studies, typically a pro labor progressive environment, that management is not needed beyond small projects.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 1 month ago

I didn't say management wasn't needed.

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Okay, well you find someone competent enough to deal with the tech and get paid less than the engineers ๐Ÿคฃ.

The rates are the rates.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 1 month ago

I could point out that I didn't say they should be paid less, either, but my heart isn't in it. I hope you have a good day doing whatever that is.

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Then go find them at the same rate. Do it.ย 

You can't, because it's an absurdly competitive market and most engineers are happy to skip it for equal or similar pay. You get what you pay for and at the same rate you typically get someone good at management or tech not both. This people go demand 300k from later companies posting more. And they'll get paid more than the engineers because they are harder to find.ย 

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 1 points 1 month ago

Lots of managers don't understand the tech, and an outright majority have no way of measuring productivity beyond in-seat time, which is supposed to be their whole job.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago

Jesus, you're an insufferable asshole. And one that has no idea what they're talking about at that.

Look up the Dunning-Krueger Effect. That's literally your post history, particularly here

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

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