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Real Struggle 😔 (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 7 hours ago by Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

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[-] pastel_de_airfryer@lemmy.eco.br 21 points 3 hours ago

My first job out of uni was developing an internal system for a company.

On a certain day, I was the first of my team to arrive. Before I could even get to my desk, a distressed colleague stopped me.

"Hey, can you help me? The system is broken! The tables are cutting off and everything is in the wrong place." he says.

We go to his desk and he shows me the problem. I grab the mouse and click the Windows maximize button.

"Oh! Thanks, it's fixed."

That guy worked there for decades and earned over five times more than me.

[-] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Fastest way to save a PDF in windows is to tell it you want to print it.

[-] Mesa@programming.dev 13 points 4 hours ago

I've got a guy like this now. I'm sure he does what he does perfectly fine, but I watched him struggle to identify a very obvious bug he pushed to production which disabled an entire function. It's a little different now when I see him being snarky with other team members...

[-] Avicenna@programming.dev 17 points 5 hours ago

"Can we get an AI tool to save pdfs?"

[-] Kenny2999@lemmy.world 23 points 6 hours ago

Lol, just received a quote as a ppt.

[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 11 points 6 hours ago

Then you gotta help them, you go take a bottle of water and they already forgot ya, when they are done (after you helped them again) they will return to treat ya like someone useless cuz to them you are "the useless keyboard jockey"

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

Or they're embarrassed and appreciative, because the old old (but still critical) Cobol guy is doing it for the first time, and you become friends.

[-] LemmyShemmy@aussie.zone 7 points 6 hours ago

Story of my life.

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Most devs refuse to take on any sort of responsibility of management. The manager gets paid to deal with that for you. Want more money? Manage coders on a successful team. You'll e miserable but at least you'll hit 200k.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 6 points 3 hours ago

That doesn't justify their salary.

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

Seems to me, for most successful companies, it does. Can you name a few successful companies past 50, making money, that don't have management?

There is little to no evidence, even in academic studies, typically a pro labor progressive environment, that management is not needed beyond small projects.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 3 hours ago

I didn't say management wasn't needed.

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

Okay, well you find someone competent enough to deal with the tech and get paid less than the engineers 🤣.

The rates are the rates.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 3 hours ago

I could point out that I didn't say they should be paid less, either, but my heart isn't in it. I hope you have a good day doing whatever that is.

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Then go find them at the same rate. Do it.

You can't, because it's an absurdly competitive market and most engineers are happy to skip it for equal or similar pay. You get what you pay for and at the same rate you typically get someone good at management or tech not both. This people go demand 300k from later companies posting more. And they'll get paid more than the engineers because they are harder to find.