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What am I missing with Matrix? (herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol)

submitted 2 months ago by klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I will be upfront with this, and say that I've never been a huge fan. But I did reinstall a Matrix server, and some clients to see if it'd gotten better in the year or so since I've last used it.

This just... Kind of feels like a more centralized XMPP with group chat folders that sort of function? The spaces feature is neat, but I've tried 4-5 clients, and every single one of those throws all of them into the same screen as the DMs by default, and I can't find a way to change that.

Am I missing something here? Like. I want to at least see what people like here, I just can't.

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[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Element is still a main client and it's the same people who worked for Amdocs in the past.

Everything about it screams "backdoor" to me including a supposed dev of it showing up and talking about how ethical and super duper cool the Israeli company actually is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36020947

User: "...Furthermore, 6 Israelis working for Amdocs were deported in 2002 for spying on the US. That’s not just a conspiracy theory. Its a seriously concerning fact."

Alleged dev: "I saw absolutely zero evidence or interest in malicious activity while working at Amdoc..."

And

"They didn’t pay big money - they funded a ~15 person team for a few years".

Because we all know bankrolling 15 devs for years is super cheap.

Their history is shady enough for me to not even consider it.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

What's more, even if you self host, unless you only allow chats within your instance, your server pisses metadata to any server it federates with, and as the "default" instance is matrix [.] org you basically have to federate with them.

Even if it isn't backdoored through the app (which afaik has never been audited) or server (which afaik also hasn't), or the protocol (which afaik has, but me no trust), if they're spying on the metadata that alone is an issue, and they absolutely could do that.

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