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🇨🇦 At Davos, Prime Minister
#MarkCarney declared that #Canada will "apply the same standards to allies and rivals".

In 2022 Canada barred #Russia n aircraft from Canadian airspace.

Two days ago, an Israeli plane transporting the war criminal Netanyahu flew through Canadian airspace.

https://x.com/dimitrilascaris/status/2022131495570485539

#politics #hypocrisy #Ottawa
#Palestine @palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe #elbowsup #cdnpol #quebec #ontario #toronto #montreal @ledevoir @torontostar #winnipeg @winnipegfreepress @pivot @TheBreach

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago

I explained, very clearly and repeatedly why Carney is applying double standard in his stance on Russia and Israel. Also, if you're going to use terms like ad hominem, at least learn what they mean. Ad hominem would be me saying you're wrong because you're an imbecile. I've explained why you're wrong on its own terms, and I also happen to think you are an imbecile.

You continue to accuse me of lying, but here we see the height of intellectual dishonesty with you pretending that Carney has a different stance on Russia than Trudeau. Since you're the one making this fantastical claim, the burden of proof is on you. Please demonstrate any evidence at all that Carney has a different stance on Russia. Which of Trudeau's policies has Carney changed on Russia. Has he lifted any sanctions, has he changed any rhetoric, please provide evidence to support your claims. Or is your argument genuinely this purely vibes based take of “well it came to me in a dream”?

Meanwhile, I can easily point to what Carney and his cabinet have said in public regarding Russia, no such rhetoric exists regarding Israel

But let's be clear here, your only purpose is to lie and clutch your pearls like the shameless liberal that you are. I'll wait for you to provide any actual evidence to back up your fantastical story there.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Oh look, a handful of the exact vibes-based "he said mean things about Russia" content that I pre-empted. Wonderful. Admittedly, I opened two and decided you're not worth any more of my time, so maybe your super secret point regarding air-space legislation that you swear you've repeated up and down is hidden halfway through the third article. But even giving you 15 minutes today was more than you deserve, so it's time to move on.

Reversing my points isn't clever. And probably look up the word "fantastical" before you start using it, particularly when I'm not the one who's weaving a tale.

EDIT - See, this is a real argument. Using, you know, consistent logic and relevant points, rather than ad hominem attacks and tangential gibberish.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You are literally the only one trying to weave a tale of Carney having some break with the Trudeau government on policy. Which is in fact a fantastical idea Still waiting for you to provide a shred of evidence for the claims you made.

p.s. I love how it's immediately time for you to move on when asked to back up your claims. Couldn't be more transparent.

[-] Glide@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Evidence of what? That 4 years and a government change is evidence of things changing? The other guy made the claim that there has been a standing policy since the 2022 incident, which is something you've never claimed. All I've done is point out that nothing you've claimed is evidence of anything. I don't need to prove whatever straw man you've built for me.

Sure, man. Think what you want. Unfortunately for you, I genuinely have better things to do than continue to engage with your bad faith nonsense. Tell yourself that means you "win," or whatever helps you feel smug, I guess.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

Oh I thought you were emphatically done making a clown of yourself here. I guess not. Evidence for your claim in literally your last comment:

If you want to make some argument that Carney is playing favorites with Israel - which, again, fuck Nathanyahu and the politics of the state of Israel - you’re going to have to demonstrate that Carney has been tough on Russia while being kind to Israel.

I've provided you links with official statements from Carney and his cabinet clearly stating that the policy has not changed. You're claiming there is some change, it is on you to back that idea up. What you did here was to literally make up a point out of thin air that Craney has not been tough on Russia as Trudeau has. What is your evidence?

Please, provide links to show what policies Carney changed. I asked you earlier, did he remove sanctions on Russia, did he change trade policies, or restore relations. What change has there been. You are the one making the claim that there is no continuation of policy. It is on you to substantiate that.

I have presented exactly the same argument as the other thread you're referring to, but since you lack even a shred of intellectual integrity you continue to pretend that this is somehow different.

You very clearly have nothing better to do. You've exposed yourself as a liar, and multiple people called you out. Now you're doing the whole 'I have better things to do' jig when asked for evidence. Pathetic!