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[-] artyom@piefed.social 44 points 2 days ago

TeamSpeak only supports 32 simultaneous users, you must purchase a license to support more than that.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 days ago

Yeah, this bit was all I needei to know:

Besides all of that, if you'd rather not chat to randoms who also happen to have an unhealthy obsession with Arc Raiders, you'll likely need to pay an admittedly small subscription fee to rent your own ten-person community voice server. By that point, you're handing over card details and essentially fulfilling an age assurance check anyway. If you'd rather limit how much info your chat platform of choice has about you, there are arguably better options out there.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 15 points 2 days ago

How does CC details qualify as age verification? It's WAY better than gov ID or face scan.

I just mean this type of business model is ripe for enshittification.

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Face scan is actually much easier to defeat than CC details.

Nowadays with VISA '3D Secure' and the equivalent on Mastercard you have to validate your legal name attached to the credit card, this is done via third-party which can request details your bank has on file (often your home address or mobile number), and even while those details are not supposed to be shared with the merchant (we know how careful banks are about keeping control of PII), the core detail - your legal name, is confirmed. It is not hard to tie a user to other data via data brokers once you have their legal name, and credit card number, and any other details they may share with the service (email, phone, etc).

[-] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

Face scan is actually much easier to defeat than CC details.

I don't understand. You don't need to "defeat" CC details.

They do not contain your age or your govt documents. Even if they did, a child is likely just going to use their parents' CC. So it's not a form of age verification at all.

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

In context, defeating the privacy exposure of requiring to use CC details would be by getting an anonymous credit card, which in most countries are now either very difficult to obtain or simply no longer offered (outlawed).

Hope that helps.

(Edit: spelllering)

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 0 points 2 days ago

It is the same effectiveness of scanning an ID since that could also be their parent's.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The point of scanning the ID is (supposedly) the verify the age of the user, not their parents.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 1 points 2 days ago

Using a credit card or an ID are both just using a physical item to 'verify' an age of someone who may or may not be that person. Getting a credit card has a minimum age, so the end goal of age 'verification' is met either way although the ID has way more personally identifiable information like skin color, actual birth date, gender, etc.

It isn't like scanning an ID verifies that the person scanning the ID is the person on the computer.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

Getting a credit card has a minimum age

Not true, anyone can become a "verified user" on another's account. That's what my parents did when I was a kid.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You are a verified user for their account. That is literally using their card with extra steps.

Also, there is frequently an age 13 requirement to be an authorized user which would count for everything except porn.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

You are a verified user for their account.

Right, which is different from the user's account, and thus does not verify their age.

there is frequently an age 13 requirement to be an authorized user which would count for everything except porn.

Discord doesn't have a 13 age group. It's just adults and children.

[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Tangentially related: Fuck Arc raiders.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

For me, it wasn't about the AI. It's that early development of the game was all PvE play. PVP was something that was added at launch, and the game is tagged as PvE, along with PvP on steam. Stupid me thought there would be PvE only lobbies and I was clearly mistaken. I tried playing it, I put 100 hours in. The entire game was me grinding the easy map, to level up and craft/buy better guns, only to be shot on sight by someone and have everything I worked for taken. I would solo down bastions, leapers, and bombdiers to have someone run up and shoot me on site, without asking if I would share loot. (I would rather share than lose everything.) Events in the game also reward PvP play by awarding cred. People are making smurf accounts so they can end up in friendly matches to dominate people that don't want to pvp. Enemy spawns are fucked up too. I've downed arc only for the corpses to despawn as I attempt to loot it. I've walked into clear areas, only to have bombadiers spawn on top of me out of nowhere. The worst part of the game is being dropped into a map/match after 10 minutes has elapsed, which means anything decent has already been looted and you're more likely to run into people camping extraction points. They have a temp event running that rewards PvE cooperative play, and I've still gotten killed on site, although less frequently. After the event is over, I'll probably uninstall the game again.

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

Not trying to change your mind because if you don’t like it you don’t like it, but the fame was developed and play tested as a PvE game. It was slated for release before The Finals. The playtesting revealed that the game was just not fun. The developers, the play testers, everyone involved felt it was boring. They delayed the game and created what was released.

I understand not personally enjoying what was released, but Embark made a decision to change the gameplay during development on their own, they weren’t forced to by a publisher or anything, and they didn’t renege on any promise or anything.

[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

The stuff I read about the play testing indicated it was PVE. I didn't do enough research before purchasing, no argument there. I happen to actually enjoy fighting the arc, and I really enjoy when I can play co-operatively, and do things like save someone that's pinned down by ARC, or help others down bastions, bombadiers, and matriarchs. Getting shot in the back after I'm soloing arc and my shield is down isn't fun. Getting shot even after I say I'm friendly, and I can't defend myself, or else trigger the algorithm to put me in more pvp matchups isn't fun. If it was already tested as a PvE game, I don't see why they can't give us PVE and PVP lobbies. Letting players decide if they want to risk PVP or not.

[-] regedit@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I absolutely loath PvP in gaming. Always have. However, I recently discovered that I enjoy extraction shooters (I think that's what these types of games are called). Been playing HOLE and wished for something like it with co-op for me and a friend to play.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Shit, thanks for your insight. I was somewhat interested in the game just because of the world it's set in, but, gah that sounds awful.

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago

Oof that's a no-go

[-] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

That's 32 connected users to voice, not total server users isn't it?

Correct. 32 people connected to voice simultaneously, but there isn't persistent text chat. So really, only 32 users at a time, at all. The lack of text made me set up a Matrix homeserver instead.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't know. They call them "slots" without elaborating and tell you to contact them for more details.

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

For a room to chat or to talk with mic or webcam? I never used Teamspeak before.

[-] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 2 days ago

For anything, is my understanding. If they try to open it, they're just represented with a "server full" notification.

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Only the person who creates the room have to pay or everyone who want to join a room that is bigger than the limit?

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

Whoever hosts the server

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