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submitted 21 hours ago by Yliaster@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Proton VPN/mail. It's often recommended as being safe, but I'm not so sure.

It has servers in Israel. Ties to Israel are never a good thing. Palantir, Epstein, etc are tied to Israel, and Israel also is known for its surveillance. It is also true that it's completely legal there for them to access and monitor any and all information that passes through VPNs or networks there.

I'm looking for a safe alternative that's privacy-conscious and isn't linked to Israel. Both mail and vpn (it's fine if they're separate). Please let me know if you guys know.

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[-] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 11 points 20 hours ago

In one case you have a company tied to a nazi regime, in the other case you have a company tied to a nazi regime. Hope this helps

[-] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

Proton has servers in 127 countries, including Cuba, Russia, Venezuela... do they all count as ties?

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

You're here comparing Venezuela and Cuba to nazis, get out you pig

[-] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I’m here saying Proton has servers in 127 countries and they are widely different, so how do you decide to which ones they are "tied" (protip: They are tied to none, getting an exit node in a country benefit users from the countries next to it, and it also opens that country's geolocked content to the world). Get a brain.

[-] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

Yes, but afaik they are not nazis nor are involved in the kind of genocidal actions israel is

[-] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Proton has servers in both Russia and Ukraine, and neither means Proton has ties with their governments. If you want to expand an Israel boycott to anyone doing business with any company from Israel then ok, but the word "ties" seems to imply some involvement or complicity with a government/regime/ideology, like they are connected to anything said place is doing.

[-] Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 2 points 19 hours ago

You sir have made my day. Thank you.

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