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submitted 1 day ago by Yliaster@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Proton VPN/mail. It's often recommended as being safe, but I'm not so sure.

It has servers in Israel. Ties to Israel are never a good thing. Palantir, Epstein, etc are tied to Israel, and Israel also is known for its surveillance. It is also true that it's completely legal there for them to access and monitor any and all information that passes through VPNs or networks there.

I'm looking for a safe alternative that's privacy-conscious and isn't linked to Israel. Both mail and vpn (it's fine if they're separate). Please let me know if you guys know.

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[-] gtr@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Ties to Israel are never a good thing.

I think we're on the same page but you might be exaggerating a bit here. Everything is connected in this world.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Let's be more specific.

Anything that gives money, power, or influence to Israel is never a good thing. They need to be boycotted at all levels.

[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

Then why boycott anything. Why use privacy-conscious alternatives. Everything is connected, afterall.

[-] North@lemmy.org 1 points 11 hours ago

You can at least try to minimize the information that they squeeze out of you. It's either that you can give least amount of information such as just device you use, or whether you use Google or not, etc. or you could let them know every single detail in your life, everything you do, everywhere you go, even everything you think. That's what this community is about. It's not about being an alien to the world but minimizing the invasion of our privacy as much as is possible.

And many people do actually boycott everything, they quit all electronic devices and live the old school way, away from highly urbanized or metropolitan areas. If that's what you want, be a hermit like them.

this post was submitted on 20 Feb 2026
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