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under that paradigm, a game isn't someone playing the game. A paint by numbers isn't a painting until you paint it.
i'm also dubious of calling the emergent thing art, we participate in games in a way that's unusual and impossible for other kinds of media. A hymn is art, singing it in the congregation of a white church doesn't feel like participating in art.
Music is art but singing as part of a larger communal experience isn't? At some point you're just idealizing art as something detached from the everyday human experience. What is it, really, that made you detract here? The lack of mystique in an everyday social environment or the baggage that made you feel the need to clarify that 'white' churches don't feel artistic?
Give it a hundred years or two and you'll have experts on the reconstruction of the tackiest most commercialized megachurches known to humanity - and it won't be just because of the historical importance involved. It will be a part of a larger attempt to understand the culture of a people, the americans of the 21st century, which will include aesthetics, musicology and so on.
i've done music in several other contexts. the white congregation and the ritual ingests art and spits out something else that is definitely not art.
I do realize that saying 'singing as part of a larger communal experience' is doing a lot of heavy lifting. But there's such a thing as shit art, fascist art and soulless art as well. You can criticize even an AI picture beyond the fact that its bad or incompetently put together. If the worst most commercialized megachurches out there are where humanity goes to die, that makes them a cemetery of sorts. There's a something to be said about turning a congregation - you know, a third space - into a grave.
it's not baggage i just didn't want to step in something or speak on what i don't directly experience. Maybe somebody with a different background feels the same way, maybe it's exotifying for me to make a definitive pronouncement.