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What's your opinion on Cuba OP?
Traitors who didn't submit to the great Socialist country called the United States of America
This is what I'm expecting from them.
Cuba is an interesting one.
The problems with Cuba are political prisoners and their handling of AIDS. And a huge chunk of issues intertwined with the trade embargo.
As with all nations, it could be better, but it's far from the worst nation in the world.
Better than the US that's for sure.
I disagree.
By what metric was the USA better than Cuba?
Cuba literally has better rights for queer people than the US now, so yeah, I'm curious what metrics as well. Looking forward to some response from them.
Each year around a 100,000 Cubans are willing to risk their lives for a chance to live in the US.
The US is far from perfect, but people don't get on rafts hoping to make it to Cuba.
"Rich country good, poor country bad!"
Very astute political analysis there
Notice how when confronted with facts the hexbear has no real argument but assumes being obnoxious is the same as making a coherent argument.
Cuban refugees carry a higher level of risk than other countries, and yet they still come. Ignoring facts doesn't make a country better. You wouldn't let a fact like that slide from the US. Hexbears lack intellectual honesty.
So once again, your argument is "rich country good, poor country bad"
No, it's that saying one place is worse doesn't make it so.
Human development index and quality of life studies put the US ahead of Cuba. Cuba isn't a hellhole that many people make it out to be, but that doesn't automatically make it better than the US.
Cuba has better healthcare and lower cost of living, but Americans aren't on rafts to Cuba.
One of the problems with enacting good and lasting change in the western world is that life is pretty darn good on the whole. It could be a lot better, but just shouting that the US is bad is mindless propagada. Be better than that.
Correct, you saying Cuba is worse doesn't make it so.
"Rich country good, poor country bad"
"Rich country good, poor country bad"
Yes, because the West ruthlessly exploits the global south to prop of it's own standards of living. This is why serious socialist revolutions have mostly only occurred in the Global South.
Real bad faith framing of your opponents argument there; be better than that.
Like trying to reframe my argument as "rich country good, poor country bad"?
I've mentioned statistics, I've mentioned a human angle and I've been upfront about what ways Cuba is better than the US. You've tried to dismiss my argument by misrepresenting it. This level of insecurity shows how shallow your beliefs are.
No reframing needed, that was just your argument.
So what exactly is your argument?
Lol, what anime did you crib this line from?
The hexbear is so afraid of introspection and thoughtful consideration of their beliefs they lash out.
Is that from the same anime as your last line?
Cuba is failure but you could easily argue that outside forces made that happen, and it least it’s not a giga corporatocracy calling itself communist like China is. China feels like late stage ultra capitalism with shortcuts. Yay corporations are married to the government…Pretty much where the US is headed.
Why is Cuba a failure in your eyes? It seems to be doing better than other countries in the region. It has a higher life expectancy than the US even, and standards of living have risen dramatically since the revolution.
Have you ver been to Cuba? It’s worse than any other country I’ve been to in the Caribbean in terms of standard of living/HDI with way more of the authoritarian garbage you weirdos seem to like.
Move there. Send me a pic of your house. I will visit.
You’re actually just wrong lol. Cuba has a larger HDI than most countries in the region. And that’s while being economically strangled by the United States.
And what’s this authoritarianism you’re talking about with Cuba? It’s a democracy. And it’s got better rights for minorities than the United States.
Wtf does "Cuba if failure" mean? What a bizarre thing to say.
Also telling that you spent 95 percent of a comment that was supposed to be about Cuba ranting about China.
Y’all are funny
Educate yourself with blowback season 2.
https://blowback.show/Season-2