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[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's why I put it behind a spoiler to avoid clogging up the thread.

I put in the time of reading the book in the first place, then I remembered a relevant bit so I went back and looked through the book to try to find it, read through it again to make sure it was actually relevant, edited it because it was from a pdf and had wierd line breaks, and considered which parts were relevant to include and whether I should omit some of the examples. I cited that book not only because it expressed what I wanted to say, but also because it's written in a modern style that's easier to read than many socialist works.

I guess I'm just used to an environment on Hexbear where people are more receptive towards reading relevant theory and some of us actually read not just posts and excerpts, but whole entire books. Maybe I should've just posted Pig Poop Balls instead.

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

I don't doubt that you were doing it in good faith, but the execution was still in such a way that it is off-putting.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

You have nothing of substance to contribute. Just "waaaaah your comment is more than a few sentences."

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Say what you want, 11 paragraphs is objectively longer than what most people want to read on social media. 11 paragraphs is just annoying and unproductive.

You can see I'm right because literally everyone who isn't a hexbear is like wtf is this. It is bad communication.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

In the time you've spent pissing and moaning about that comment you could have read it five times over.

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 1 year ago

That would be accepting it as good communication. My point is to not do that, because it is not good communication. I agree with you though, I could have.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You don't have to click the spoiler. It's literally one line you can easily scroll past, but some people who have more time might find it interesting.

Anyway it's a response to a pretty low-effort, unoriginal meme, the whole "proportional time" thing cuts both ways. I've added more to making these comments a meaningful, intelligent dialogue than OP did.

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 1 year ago

I will respectfully disagree that throwing in 11 paragraphs of some text without explanation adds to a meaningful dialogue

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will respectfully disagree that you can make that evaluation without knowing what the text actually says.

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 1 year ago

I get that the text might have some good and important meaning, but the format the meaning was delivered in spoils it.

Like, I would love it if someone gave me a million dollars. But do I want the million dollars in pennies? Not really lol

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're just complaining to complain at this point. Literally just scroll past if it's such a problem. All I did was lead you to water, I'm not forcing you to drink.

You choosing to die on this hill just makes me think of this lol

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 0 points 1 year ago

I'm just saying to package the words in a way that is comprehensible to the person reading it, and likely that they will.

I honestly don't doubt that there was some good content in it. But the audience you are talking to doesn't want the communication you are giving in that format. It comes off as annoying, and therefore not effective in communicating the message you want to deliver.

I'm over here delivering free marketing lessons to tankies lol.

I'm gonna go touch grass now. Good luck with stuff

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

I'm gonna go touch grass now.

Please do, anything else you could do can't be less productive than this.

[-] boboblaw@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Marketing lessons, lmao. You certainly have the intellectual depth of a puddle, my guy.

No one gives a shit about how much appeal our posting has for you. We're not trying to sell you anything. We're not even trying to cajole you into being a little less anti-intellectual and wilfully ignorant.

We'd rather just slap you down with a concise well cited historical source, just to make it abundantly clear to everyone else that you're an ignorant intellectually lazy non-entity who has no business getting involved. Stick to your monosyllabic social media communications, replying to the latest Facebook memes, and saying all the classic lines from Reddit.

We're not trying to get you to change, honestly I think you're much more entertaining this way. Only semi-literate and clearly too big for your boots. Please continue.

[-] figaro@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

🤷‍♂️ it's all good my dude. If you don't want to learn how to communicate your message better, it's not my problem.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So what I'm getting is that you need to be sat down in front of a screen and have things explained to you in short, simple sentences, or else you panic and bolt.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You make it seem like theres a problem with that... i didnt come to a social media to read a textbook

[-] boboblaw@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

No you come to social media to jump into threads about complex topics like history, philosophy, and politics...and then engage only thru simple thought-terminating cliches.

When someone quotes a relevant passage from a history book, you arrogantly dismiss it for being completely inappropriate for a "social media" site. What is appropriate here, of course, is you weighing in on these complex topics with the correct form of communication -- an incoherent series of monosyllabic words strung together.

Now that is productive communication.

I wish you luck on your continuing mission to convince yourself that you're the articulate master of communication here, actually.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry can you dumb that down for me please

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