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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by ell1e@leminal.space to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Firefox is trying to gain back user trust with this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=O-xyNkvIB9g

This is a legit question: Should anybody trust Firefox again unless they put "we won't sell your data" back into the privacy policy? I'm actually not sure if they haven't already done so, let me elaborate:

https://brave.com/privacy/browser/ Brave: "We do not sell, trade, or transfer your information to any third parties." This seems to obviously be in the legally binding text part. As is this one: "It’s Brave’s policy to not collect personal data1 unless it’s necessary to provide services to our users, or to meet certain legal obligations. We do not buy or sell personal data about consumers." (Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer.)

However, for Firefox it seems ambiguous to me, which worries me: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/#notice There is no appearance of "sell" in the entire privacy document, excpet for the top summary where i'm not sure if it's at all legally non-binding.

Does anybody know if it is legally binding? If Mozilla were serious about it, why would they leave it ambiguous whether it is...?

Based on that, I'm not sure if Mozilla's video about getting users back is worth trusting. I wonder if it's just me.

Update for clarification: I'm not using Brave myself, and this isn't a suggestion anybody should blindly do so.

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[-] ell1e@leminal.space 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If this one corner case is the reason, why doesn't Mozilla put it into the legal text? I feel like the ambiguity hurts their position here. That Mozilla is silent about specifics in the legal text, seems rather scary to me.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 days ago

Because it's not one corner case. There are multiple - they have other sponsors and advertisers.

[-] ell1e@leminal.space 1 points 17 hours ago

I meant specifying the corner case of what exact type of data is shared, not an exhaustive list of companies it's shared with that would inevitably go out of date.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago

I meant specifying the corner case of what exact type of data is shared

You mean this?

not an exhaustive list of companies

You mean this?

that would inevitably go out of date.

They, and everybody else who shares user data, are legally obligated to keep track of said data and have that published and available for both users and other companies.

[-] ell1e@leminal.space 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

"Technical data", "Interaction Data", very specific, uh-uh. (I'm being sarcastic.) The latter especially sounds like it can be literally a keylogger.

I would love for Mozilla to fix this, which is why I try to be pragmatic and concrete. But so far, they don't seem willing to do so.

this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2026
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