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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

For those who use GrapheneOS, is it worth it? Do you like it?

My backups are done, all that is left is the final choice to wipe my whole phone.

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[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Does it with with banking apps and Google wallet?

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Google wallet? Why would you move off Google and use something pointless a bank card would do?

I'm in the UK, but can access banking websites via browser.

[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Lol I didn't realize this was about de-Googling.

I don't like all the other stuff but I use wallet all the time. It's just convenient.

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

It's always the trade off. Convenience vs privacy. Personally, I always have a real wallet so cards are convenient to me. Batteries can run out at any time.

Using Google anything is never a privacy option.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It doesn't have to be though. It could be BOTH convenient AND private. It's only because we, as a society, didn't fully understand the "cost" of "free". We thought it was just so nice to get a good search engine without having to pay. We didn't grasp that it was the beginning of surveillance capitalism. We didn't understand that this business model would be so successful every company, from news ones like Meta, to "old" ones like Microsoft or Amazon, would try to be hybrids, both selling stuff and but also re-selling data to advertisers.

So no it's not a false choice, it's a corner we strategically got pushed into.

I believe, maybe naively, that initiatives like https://uattest.net/ or even https://www.taler.net/ are trying to show that it can be both convenient and private, but NOT while relying on surveillance capitalism which is precisely investing a lot of money to bring the maximum convenience, including free (hard to beat) but at the cost of privacy.

Edit: seems GrapheneOS isn't into UAttest initiative https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116200110686604617 but I'm not sure what alternative they propose.

It's not always a tradeoff in the simplest way. I wish I could use my Privacy.com cards for privacy and security via NFC but that requires the Google wallet which I refuse to use. So for in person transactions I loose those two benefits if I don't have enough cash or the business doesn't accept cash.

[-] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 5 points 1 day ago

Google wallet, I am not sure, but my banking app works.

[-] scott@lem.free.as 5 points 1 day ago

Depends on the bank. Mine does.

No Google Wallet but I pay with NFC using Curve and put tickets, boarding passes, loyalty cards, etc. into FossWallet.

[-] vikingtons@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Banking apps may vary. Google wallet will not work sure to integrity / attestation but other contactless payment methods word.

this guy uses curve pay on graphene:

https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2025/06/contactless-payments-with-grapheneos/

[-] CurbCuts@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

It depends how much you want to lean into degoogling and your banking apps.

You can always set up a separate profile install a non sandboxed google ay store and use it for things that won't any other way.

[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I guess that would work.

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