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[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

I thought China was supposed to be socialist?!

[-] zonnewin@feddit.nl 4 points 3 months ago

In practice, China is more capitalist (at citizen level) than many European countries.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

So what's their healthcare situation? Does government provide it? or is it only provided through employment like USA does it (implying we're not worthy of healthcare unless we work a cushy job),? or do they pay for healthcare out of pocket?

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I may have gotten some information incorrect, but I believe that the Chinese welfare system is very complex and even sad to think about. Citizens are only entitled to free healthcare in their home province. Outside of that they are not entitled. It's called the hukou system. Despite the uplifting of millions of Chinese from poverty, the wealth and access to resources is strange in such a way.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I think it's pronounced the "fuk-you" system.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Best comment I've read!

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 3 months ago

So ... if you were very sick, why wouldn't you go back to your home province to get that healthcare?

Stupid system, sure, but it seems like a much more reasonable solution than hoping your child wins a lot of money in sports.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Their home province may be rural and not have hospitals equipped to treat certain diseases? China is a big country and not all of it is well developed.

[-] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is the correct answer in a lot of cases and even if their hukou is in a modern place like Shanghai, the best hospitals and latest medical treatments are often not part of the basic medical coverage. Long lines and long waits happen for many services. A two tier system of public and private care exists with the rich able to pay for private doctor, private rooms, and advanced care. I lived in Shanghai for 11 years. Managed to have a heart attack there and got great emergency service at a fraction of the cost in the USA. After care was long lines and long waits at the local hospital so I went to the international clinic for that.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

A lot of Chinese are from the more rural interior and travel to the more prosperous cities, which are closer to the coast, to work. Traveling to their home province to get treatment is more arduous than getting sick itself.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 3 months ago

I thought they at least had universal healthcare...

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

For the rich.

China (and India) like 70% of it is poverty stricken pre industrial living. No running water, no electricity, no sewage systems.

They have a free "doctor" who may be hours away and have the training/equipment equivalent of early 1900's doctors elsewhere.

[-] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 months ago
[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It says this is in cities only. That seems to neglect rural areas, no?

[-] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 3 months ago

sure, but the urban population of china is close to 65%.

so if 100% of the rural population have zero access to water and electricity (which would be fucking insane to assert), then thats 35% of the total population, literally half of the figure op stated in his comment. and this is giving them the biggest benefit of the doubt possible.

all in all, i retain my point of them being a fuckhead.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Did you miss the word CITY ???

Learn to read JFC

Both countries regularly exclude and ignore the rural populations.

Or even just watch a documentary, for example when they show shots ,it is very easy to tell most of the rural towns have no electricity, running water, or in most cases front doors/glass windows....

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yes. And not 100% of procedures are covered by the nationalized healthcare. These are not incongruent things.

Contrast that to America where not 100% of procedures are covered by personal healthcare, and less if your healthcare coverage is "bad".

[-] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

China has a pretty abismal social safety net. They economy has a lot more central organization than most countries (whose economies are more free market). The social safety net systems in Europe are much stronger than in China, even though they have less centrally planned economies overall.

As with everything, it's hard to fit things into neat groups and the more you analyze something the more nuance there is.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Look up the term State Capitalism. That is China.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

That's why the "Democratic" part of Social democracy is so critical.

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