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For those who use GrapheneOS, is it worth it? Do you like it?

My backups are done, all that is left is the final choice to wipe my whole phone.

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[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

Google wallet? Why would you move off Google and use something pointless a bank card would do?

I'm in the UK, but can access banking websites via browser.

[-] ryan213@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Lol I didn't realize this was about de-Googling.

I don't like all the other stuff but I use wallet all the time. It's just convenient.

[-] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

It's always the trade off. Convenience vs privacy. Personally, I always have a real wallet so cards are convenient to me. Batteries can run out at any time.

Using Google anything is never a privacy option.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It doesn't have to be though. It could be BOTH convenient AND private. It's only because we, as a society, didn't fully understand the "cost" of "free". We thought it was just so nice to get a good search engine without having to pay. We didn't grasp that it was the beginning of surveillance capitalism. We didn't understand that this business model would be so successful every company, from news ones like Meta, to "old" ones like Microsoft or Amazon, would try to be hybrids, both selling stuff and but also re-selling data to advertisers.

So no it's not a false choice, it's a corner we strategically got pushed into.

I believe, maybe naively, that initiatives like https://uattest.net/ or even https://www.taler.net/ are trying to show that it can be both convenient and private, but NOT while relying on surveillance capitalism which is precisely investing a lot of money to bring the maximum convenience, including free (hard to beat) but at the cost of privacy.

Edit: seems GrapheneOS isn't into UAttest initiative https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116200110686604617 but I'm not sure what alternative they propose.

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