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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by ell1e@leminal.space to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Firefox is trying to gain back user trust with this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=O-xyNkvIB9g

This is a legit question: Should anybody trust Firefox again unless they put "we won't sell your data" back into the privacy policy? I'm actually not sure if they haven't already done so, let me elaborate:

https://brave.com/privacy/browser/ Brave: "We do not sell, trade, or transfer your information to any third parties." This seems to obviously be in the legally binding text part. As is this one: "It’s Brave’s policy to not collect personal data1 unless it’s necessary to provide services to our users, or to meet certain legal obligations. We do not buy or sell personal data about consumers." (Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer.)

However, for Firefox it seems ambiguous to me, which worries me: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/#notice There is no appearance of "sell" in the entire privacy document, excpet for the top summary where i'm not sure if it's at all legally non-binding.

Does anybody know if it is legally binding? If Mozilla were serious about it, why would they leave it ambiguous whether it is...?

Based on that, I'm not sure if Mozilla's video about getting users back is worth trusting. I wonder if it's just me.

Update for clarification: I'm not using Brave myself, and this isn't a suggestion anybody should blindly do so.

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[-] ell1e@leminal.space 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The linked reports don't seem too useful since 1. the first one seems some automated scan not a code review, and 2. the second one is "Firefox Accounts" and not a browser code review. My apologies if I"m missing something.

I personally think you shouldn't run software that accesses such intricate personal information if you don't trust it, if it can be updated to change to grab all that data. ~~Especially since Mozilla seems to potentially give itself a license to all your data, apparently.~~ Update: This seems to only apply to "Mozilla Accounts", my apologies for the error: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/services/

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

you shouldn’t run software that accesses such intricate personal information if you don’t trust it, if it can be updated to change to grab all that data.

Yes, and you should also brush and floss your teeth, do physical activities, buy local produces, recycle everything, do your due diligence on all political candidates, etc, etc. In practice we ALL have to make pragmatic choices. There are not a lot of browsers and basically for fully featured engines there are (arguably) only 2, Chromium by Google and Firefox by Mozilla. One is an advertising for profit company, the other is not. If you genuinely care a lot about privacy though you might not have to use either, you might be perfectly fine with much simpler browsers like Links or even lynx and I can tell you with a lot greater confidence that there no data will leak. You can also containerize your browser using e.g. https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-webtop/ and then run within there whatever you want.

since Mozilla seems to potentially give itself a license to all your data, apparently.

That's not correct, you mean some data from your browser usage. I think it's important to be precise here otherwise through shortcuts you try to convince yourself, and others, about a problematic situation that just does not exist.

So which browser do YOU trust and why?

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