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Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.
Edit: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sept-26
I mean the downsides are it's Linux. That's not without it's upsides but the downsides are huge.
Like Android you mean?
What about it?
Android is technically doing just fine.
I don't understand what that's supposed to mean.
That it doesn't have huge downsides.
Of course it does. Google is increasingly locking down the platform. In 6 months you won't even be able to sideload software anymore without Google's permission.
You are confusing few things here. You said that Linux (not Android) has huge downsides. I mentioned that Android does not have such huge technical issues and is technically doing just fine. Now you talk politics, not technicalities and these don't have anything to do with Linux or its downsides. My point is that Android proves that Linux on mobile does not have huge downsides, at least from technical POV. Also there is AOSP that is not affected by politics. Until Google decides to make it closed source that is.
I honestly have no idea what you're on about. I didn't say literally anything about politics.
Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but ~~at~~ is something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides...
Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don't play nice? I 100% don't know what the downsides would be.
From my research, the phone part of the "phone" doesn't work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.
I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect...
It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.
We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone
That’s the main thing you’re buying it for…
Well, are you? I can’t remember the last conversation I had over phone.
I'm with you - I'd pay extra for a phone that doesn't take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.
Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.
Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.
I'm on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯
Goes both ways, I'd be happy if more calls would simply fail midway.
"What a shame, better write an e-mail."
No one was arguing the other way...
Ah yeah, I love writing emails back and forth for 5 days to do what could be accomplished in a 5 minute phone call.
We clearly have different communication partners. Most of the issues of mine are solved by them thinking about it. Writing an e-mail forces them to.
WTF is a "communication partner"?
Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox. Just send me a text if it's not urgent or doesn't require discussion or you just don't like me.
Well the way you write I'm not surprised people don't like you.
LOL because yours was so much nicer?
Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.
It was a common complaint I came across when researching a few different Linux devices.
I guess if you're not having issues I must be wrong, because everyone's experiences should mirror yours exactly.
SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.
Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.
I don't see it really as a downside compared to Android, since no OEM is running clean AOSP.