I'm going against the new-age tech grain with this, but... I fucking despise docker anything. I can follow directions fine, it's the troubleshooting that takes too much time. Sure, I'll learn it eventually, but I do IT for a living I'm not coming home to waste my nights also doing this.

I've setup ZimaOS as a massive NAS with Yunohost on anything web-hosted/accessible. A. It's easier with a graphical UI on stuff that's packaged. B. Installing, updating, and most other services are pretty well automated/packaged to work really well. C. When i have the conversations with friends who aren't tech savvy and are overwhelmed, I want to have firsthand knowledge of easy systems that're basic, but powerful, and will help them dip their toes in freedom.

No Proxmox, unraid, no docker stuff, no nested VMs, no more complex setups. While I can learn to troubleshoot and memorize CLI, I'm too old and busy with family and work/commute to deal with problems at home lol. Too much tinkering has poised my wife off to the point she thinks all the self hosted stuff is unreliable. So, I deploy, test, vet basic issues, and if it's too much time or setup involved, or dependencies on other apps, I'm out!!

Too many containers, too many fragile, partial service apps that just feel incomplete. Yuno and Zima (formerly casa) are great!! Others being tested too for fun but at snails pace lol.