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Canada Conservatives Want Chinese EVs Barred and Their Software Banned
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We NEED cheap small EVs to go pick up our groceries and drop our kids off at school and go to the occasional dinner invitation at your relatives.
Right now all we have are huge expensive or luxury EVs. I want a fucking Honda Fit or Toyota Yaris or a Ford Focus type of car. And the only ones that have them ready to sell are the Chinese.
So let them in and allow us to dump ICE vehicles once and for all.
Fuck ICE in all fields
* heey~~~ * sad german high speed passenger train noises
(Inter city express)
How often is it running on time with no issues?
Legitimate question, I only took it once from Frankfurt to Cologne, and it was ok once we were onboard, but was massively delayed. Just curious if that was an outlier or a regular thing.
As I recall, the intercity trains in Germany are late something like 30% of the time.
It's delayed quite often.
Making fun of the DB is its own genre of comedy.
But I have to stand up for them a little bit: obviously one delay is more memorable than 10 arrivals on time.
Amen brother
The Nissan Leaf and Kia Niro EV both exist. They aren't quite Honda fit small, but they are compact ev hatchbacks that are nowhere near luxury. Under $50k brand new and do the job just fine.
I've put 140,000km on my Niro EV in the last four years, dragging my kids to sports and driving to work.
$45k+ still isn't what I'd call affordable, especially when their closest ICE equivalents (Nissan Versa and Hyundai Kona) are about $20k cheaper new.
At least it looks like used EVs with triple digit ranges are starting to show up around $10k. The state of EV affordability is improving but there's still a long way to go.
That's because you are looking only at up front cost rather than total cost of ownership.
A gas car will cost more than $45k in gasoline over its life.
An EV in most parts of Canada will cost less than $10k over the same distance for electricity.
That $45k EVs is already significantly cheaper than an equivalent gas car. This has been true for a while now.
If you drive enough, it can even be cheaper per month while paying for the car. A $600 per month EV payment with $100 a month electrical cost is the same price as a $300 car payment with $400 in gas costs. Then the moment you pay the car off you're saving $300 a month for the rest of its life.
If all you do is commute 10km a day, Yea don't go buy a brand new EV, but you shouldn't be buying a brand new gas car for that either.
The problem is that once you get into lifetime costs the variables go through the roof and any numbers you come up with are almost meaningless to anyone but yourself. (Not to mention needing to calculate increasingly volatile energy prices over decades) I tried to do a bit of basic math. I calculated with BC Hydro home rates at $0.12/kwh and fast charger rates at $0.40/kwh, and with gas at its (local) year low of $1.40/L as well as rounding up to $2/L. I also am taking my basic search for efficiency data at face value.
Cost/100km
Kia Niro EV ~17kwh/100km = $2.04 home $6.80 fast charger
Hyundai Kona ICE ~7.5L/100km combined = $10.50-$15
Nissan Leaf ~18.9kwh/100km = $2.27 home $7.56 fast charger
Nissan Versa ~6.8L/100km = $9.52-$13.60
There's no doubt there are many people saving tons by driving an EV, just as I have no doubt many people will never break even (and if they're ok with that I have no issues).
Exactly what I was going to reply, thanks.
@BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca made a good point though. But they're still a tad expensive. But Nissan and Kia (and Hyundai) are on the right track.
Having the Chinese EVs would certainly help with the transition.