These bigoted, ignorant scum will never listen to anything. They are politically illiterate infants with an allergic reaction to reading.
They have ruined a safe space cultivated and cared for, they have turned this place into a new reddit.
I had a dude in my private messages going on about how I was both mutilating myself and other children. Many more people on hexbear have had similar experiences, with these worthless ignorant scum popping in to deliver the political equivalent of a giant shit.
As your friends, comrades, and people you say you defend get slurred at, dehumanized, and harassed please ask yourself:
Is it worth it?
I have the answer, I know you know it as well:
No its not
I used to think otherwise
I was a fool
its not worth a few laughs
even if you dunk all you want, that doesn't take away the knife those people put in our backs.
These bigots, fascists, and NATO liberals are as worthless offline as they are here, why should we give them any attention. They are worth less than the dirt beneath our fingernails. Why should we poison ourselves with their influence? We don't make any room for them offline, why should we not online?
And really
How many essays have your written?
How many sources have you combed through?
How many times have you explained the most basic facts of reality?
How many attempts at good faith?
Only for them to dismiss it in their stupidity. They don't read it, they just crumble and divert back to the programming these little shits trust in more than God.
For every time there is a good faith user, there are a dozen scumbag fascists. And most of the time, the "good faith one" just reverts back to their old shit.
Do you really think losing any member of the hexbear or lemmygrad community, longtime members or not, is worth a few good dunks?
I don't believe a small chance of gaining a new user is worth alienating an entire section of the community. The vast majority of those idiots are lost causes. If they are interested, the can just make an account and ask in good faith.
Is posting a meme to "own the liberals" worth your comrades getting more trauma from bigots harassing them?
No its not.
you've had your laugh, but it should end
Ban them all, SJW, lemm.ee, lemmy, the programmer nazi edglords. Keep Lemmygrad.
Defederate from those communities. We shouldn't sacrifice our own for more clicks. For having to subject ourselves to the opinions of people thoroughly brainwashed? We aren't reddit. We came here to get away from that. I'm sick of this. We are sick of this.
End it now
Respectfully, I do disagree. I've seen a huge amount of federated users reconsider their ways with our presence. I've hung about on various account for years, but I'm not sure I want to go back to closed-loop hexbear, I forget how the minorest of things because huge pointless arguments, and now we have actual important points to correct again. The 'old' relationship was never as fun as you remember it.
Although splitting is rarely a fun idea, given that Lemmy is an all-or-nothing federation affair, maybe splitting into federated and non-federated sites is the answer.
This. Why let a few racists and transphobes protected by the admins on shitjustworks cut us off from Lemm.ee and other instances?
I've been on lemmygrad since the John Brown incident and since genzedong was quarantined. I'm on lemm.ee now and don't want hexbear to leave.
People gotta stop being so sensitive about losers online. Sometimes it seems like people are discovering liberalism for the first time in their lives. Like do you even exist in the world? Liberalism is the default in the world.
But it wasn't the default here. It was the one place where that was true. I missed the latest drama but while I personally think federation is important and should be pursued, I also think the pushback is reasonable.
lemmee is almost as reactionary as shitjustworks, half of the time i see somebody from that instance it's either double holocaust wehrmacht apologia or some form of debate pervertry. There are people on there you can have a good faith discussion with, but overall i think we should defederate them next.
Just like any instance some of you guys are way out there, but I had a very pleasant time asking you guys to elaborate on Democratic socialism for me and it's given me a lot to think about
And these people are our most based posters, treasure of our website.
See, that is super cool - Every day I get surprised that there are people like you willing to engage in good faith discussion. And, excuse the almost cliche, I do think we all learn from those kind of conversations
What ways, what even is this place?
Being a neoliberal or a transphobe
anti-lib-transphobe-aktion
the spectre haunting lemmy