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Just because the US launched one of the stupidest and least planned wars in a century, does not make the Iranian government good.
Just two months ago they were killing thousands of protestors.
The saudi regime is as bad we don't have any sanction on them. Israel is doing the worst crime in humanity a fucking genocide we don't have sanctions on the state itself. Any kind of sanctions in the war makes it harder for iran to defend itself for being genocided too. So please stop with your hypocrisy
OK they should be sanctioned too then. Next question?
But there is no sanctions on them though showing canada hypocrisy. Thye are sanctionning iran because it is israel and usa enemies and to make irqn lose so israel can genocide it and do the greater israel project
You're conflating the topic and build a strawman so bye
It's a straw man to talk about the other side in a conflict! You can only talk about the state being bombed and invaded, not the states doing the bombing and invasion!
Nope current discussion is social reaction and OP is conflating with government policy - not even remotely the same thing. It's a bad faith discussion that will go nowhere productive so have a day.
Sounds more like you don't have an answer to the point that Canada sanctioning one human rights violator while ignoring those it's allied to.
Whatsboutism and strawman accusation is hypocrites favourite accusation. It is not a strawman to expose canada selective applications of sanctions and values they pretend to have
Nah dummy I'm not going to bother to reply to your drivel to entertain your bad faith argument. Go back to your cave.
Get lost hypocrite
Ah, but the Saudi regime has dumptrucks full of money.
And just because the Iranian government is an ass doesn't give America the right to bomb them. Or why don't they go after every other country whose government does bad things. Sorry in this case the US is the "bad guy".
And Israel.
I'm basically watching 3 "bad guys" beat on each other. You can't be sure who you want to cheer on, or complain about more than the other. It's a strange feeling, to be sure.
The country you have the most influence over is the one you live in. Your most effective criticism is directed at who your government is and/or chooses to ally with, start there.
Iran was being sanctioned before the attack too. A lot of people act like any enemy of Trump is their ally, but this is not so.
Nobody is claiming that. This is just an idiotic straw man. You don't have to support the government in Iran to understand that invading countries is wrong. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Americans...
I did not claim that starting a war on Iran was OK. I said that sanctioning them is OK. Sanctions on Iran should not stop just because of Trump's idiotic war.
The Lancet has published data concluding that US imposed sanctions cause the deaths of more than 564,000 people each year. More than half of the dead are children under the age of 5. If that's what you support, you're utterly sick.
With the express and publicly stated purpose to bring so much physical economic pain to the people so that they revolt against the gov't.
If they killed thousands in a few days, how many were killed during 4 weeks of US bombing?
Both are bad. Neither should have/be happening.
Only going to sanction one of the perpetrators though. The other we won't even condemn. We are just desperate to stay business partners with them.
Principled when pragmatic, but not principled if not pragmatic. That's what we call "principled pragmatism."
People ruled by pedophile oligarchs don't get to decide which governments are 'good' and invade countries based on that.
Ok but who is being ruled by pedophile oligarchs? This is a Canadian sub. What is your point here, that we sanctioned Iran? While maybe we don't all wish that there's bombs falling on people's heads, at the same time the regime in Iran are far from sweethearts...
His point is he's going to be a smarmy prick about it, and purity test anybody that doesn't have an absolute opinion on the subject.
So when is Canada invading America? If not being sweethearts is the requirement.
Canada's not really an invader. We don't invade people, we just want to exist in a world not full of maniacs.