Prigozhin says his forces "are turning our columns around," amid claims of deal brokered by Lukashenko (www.cnn.com)

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[-] Badgernomics@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

"When you play the game of thrones, you either win or you die."

I am very sceptical of this. Lukashenko brokered a deal? He's a Putin puppet, why would Prigozhin cut a deal with him? What would that deal look like? Does Prigozhin become head of the MoD or Putins designated successor? He's right there outside Moscow, he has the leverage, why would he blink?

Putin called him a traitor, an enemy of the state, why would Putin back down from that point, he already looks weak, why look weaker via a U-turn? Prigozhin must know he's a dead man if he backs down, he knows the play book, why would he trust in the deal?

Was the whole thing a psy-op to give Putin an out? Was the voice recording that is the ultimate source of all this a Russian State propaganda play? Is it a play by Wagner to buy time to consolidate his forces before he moves on Moscow? But then, he has to be the one to move fast and hard...

Whatever is going on, we don't know. Next 5-24hrs will be key.

[-] TomHardy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

I think bacause the media always portrays Russia in a certain way, you expect now that Prigozhin is instantly dead, no trial, shot on sight, missiles onto his residence... this is not the reality. In the West, there is no mutual understanding and negotiation, somebody always has to "own" somebody else, down-to-the-knees-lick-my-boots type. This fails to project to Russia and other countries outside the G7-bubble. Imagine that maybe, maybe the Russian government can reason and think, if it is feasable to start an internal war along a first or instead just send through Lukashenko a promise to him to call back his army? Also Putin never called him directly a traitor, even if he is one, because that isn't the style of Russian officials to call people names (unlike Western & Ukrainian policians).

I swear you guys can only compare the world to Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter and map every villan so slavic politicians.

[-] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I think because the media always portrays Russia in a certain way, you expect now that Prigozhin is instantly dead, no trial, shot on sight, missiles onto his residence… this is not the reality.

so how 'bout that trial

[-] TomHardy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Good question, wasn't Russia appearing on an international summit right after blowing him up? Also it made the most sense to kill him after resolving a coup in no way another country would do, and throw that show of diplomacy away? And lose influcence in Africa with his death? You're like the high iq people who think Nemzov gets shot right in front of the Kreml is not made for Western audiences and media?

Also, blazero, how 'bout doing something else than creeping through my profile, like blazing some skunk or idk finding your Taiwan nation