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EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

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[-] mounderfod@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 years ago

Tankies aren't real Communists

Sucking the dick of authoritarian regimes does not make you communist

[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

Heaven forbid an actually existing place on the planet actually make some real tangible gains for its people while necessarily suppressing threats

[-] mounderfod@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

There's "threats" and there's "anyone remotely criticising the regime"

There are some tangible gains in these places but also significant losses for the freedoms and rights of their residents

[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

They don't/didn't suppress criticism, that's a myth

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

Hell yeah there's that lib homophobia, 1 milimeter below the surface at all times

[-] mounderfod@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

I'm bi but no go ahead, call me a homophobe for making a dick joke :p

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Then you should know better than to be homophobic as a substitute for saying anything interesting. Self-reflection would probably help you to not embarass yourself in the future.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

Why does it always go to homophobia with these types

[-] mounderfod@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago

Idk where the homophobia is, I'm partial to sucking the odd dick myself, just not Mao Zedong or Vladimir Putin :p

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

"umm actually I used it as an insult because it's a good thing!"

How do you people survive the cognitive dissonance necessary to convince yourself you're not being bigoted?

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[-] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Real Communism exists only in the pure and untouched ethereal plane of your mind palace.

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[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

I support whatever this is so idk what that makes me

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago

Celebrating an increase in life expectancy from 30 to 40 years old is not remotely the win you think it is.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm celebrating the increase in life expectancy from 35 to higher than that of the US, actually, which is the win I think it is.

The point is not the immediate increase in that specific 5 year period, the point is the clear trend of rapid, long term increases after a long period of stagnation, with the pivitol turning point being exactly when the CPC came to power. You're supposed to look at the whole graph.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

China never manipulates data coming out of their authoritarian country so good thing we can trust it. I'm sure their life expectancy is great with all their industrial pollution that regularly causes smog in their inner cities.

[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Here is my source do you have a source that disputes that? Or is your belief based entirely on unfalsifiable faith?

Also curious if you think Chinese life expectancy is still like 35 or what lmao

You may also be interested in what the World Bank, that infamous communist propaganda rag, has to say:

Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

No one in China is over 50. If you're over 50 in China they just shoot you, and then they lie and say they didn't.

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My god he can't read a graph. How has our educational system been allowed to fail for this long?

I'm not committed at all to China as the salvation of the communist project, but it's exactly this sort of self-imposed illiteracy and ignorance, and nearly religious faith in the inferiority and duplicity of The Orient that makes me default to distrusting anything negative a cracker says about it.

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[-] randint@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Careful calling those regimes authoritarian. Hexbears like to attack this point by assigning a slightly different definition to authoritarian and then either (a) claim that all governments are "authoritarian" or (b) blame liberals for using this word to demonize socialist states. I once saw someone cite https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Authoritarianism to "prove" that those states are not authoritarian.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

Not by "assigning a slightly different definition", just by applying the definition consistently, rather than using the us-foreign-policy standard.

Ah yes, doge-firefox, please tell me how consistent your beliefs are lmao

[-] mustardman@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Did you just ad hominimem this poor LIB ?

I strawmanned ad hominined logical fallacied all over them.

[-] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

It's worse than just that. They argue that acknowledgement of Stalin's atrocities is Holocaust denial.

They are so scared and insecure they will lash out against anything that slightly challenges their beliefs. If they post sources it will be misreadings of fringe groups, or conveniently ignoring facts. Like how they believe tiananmen square wasn't a big deal because the China killed about 300 people a mile away. Or how Cuba is a utopia even though it's citizens chose to get run over by the coast guard instead of living there.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They argue that acknowledgement of Stalin's atrocities is Holocaust denial.

No, we argue that equating the bad things the soviet union did to the holocaust is holocaust trivialization, which is a take from mainstream liberal historians. Because the bad things the soviet union did were tiny compared to the holocaust and pretty tame compared to the other Allies.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As ever, actual Jewish Holocaust scholars agree with us

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

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