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However, we don't have a "hardened security" approach, we aren't developing a phone for pedo(censored) so they can evade justice.

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[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml -4 points 3 weeks ago

Google is the exact opposite of privacy and security.

I find it very dishonest that GrapheneOS was advertising itself as the secure option while tying itself so closely to Google.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago

The Pixel phones were the only devices with secure enough hardware to make GrapheneOS viable, that's why they developed it for them.

It wasn't because of some deal with google or anything like that.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago

Hardware security guarantees are irrelevant for most people, including myself. A very small segment of the popularion needs them.

What matters infinitely more is who has access to your data. And Google is one of the worst offenders.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Buying a phone from Google (HTC really) does not give Google access to your data.

There are no Google services installed by Graphene, you have the option of running Google services if you choose, but even if you choose to do so they are kept in a sandbox and not given privileged information on the system.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago

There are no Google services installed by Graphene, you have the option of running Google services if you choose, but even if you choose to do so they are kept in a sandbox and not given privileged information on the system.

Using Google hardware results in financial gain for Google, which is one of the worst companies out there for privacy and security. I do not like that GrapheneOS is working to propagate Google's monopoly.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You're moving the goalposts, you said:

What matters infinitely more is who has access to your data. And Google is one of the worst offenders.

That's completely different than who benefits financially from your phone purchase.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not moving goalposts. If you care about security, then you should also care about not making money for Google.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Those are two different things.

[-] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Using Google hardware results in financial gain for Google

So buy 2nd hand then.

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