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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

With climate change looming, it seems so completely backwards to go back to using it again.

Is it coal miners pushing to keep their jobs? Fear of nuclear power? Is purely politically motivated, or are there genuinely people who believe coal is clean?


Edit, I will admit I was ignorant to the usage of coal nowadays.

Now I'm more depressed than when I posted this

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[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Because the amount of fuel used in a nuclear reactor is exponentially less than fossil fuels.

There's enough nuclear material on this planet to power nuclear reactors for tens of thousands of years.

Nuclear power is clean, efficient, and lasts for essentially ever

[-] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago

It's close to 'renewable' but technically it should be called 'low carbon fuel'.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That's like saying air isn't renewable..

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There are processes on our planet renewing air. I'm not aware of similar processes for fission materials.

[-] legion02@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's renewable in the same way that solar is. Eventually the sun will die and solar won't work just like we'll eventually run out of fissible material.

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

where's the carbon in nuclear?

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

The graphite neutron moderator.

[-] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The carbon expended in producing the fuel is a good example.

[-] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

As with all power plants, wind turbines, solar panels, etc. there are carbon costs associated with the manufacturing, construction and transport. Remember that there's a lot of steel involved.

[-] Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

It's an interesting take. I guess the sun is not renewable either.

Is any practically infinite (in human scales) source of energy called renewable? I am hearing this for the first time.

[-] SeeingWhereThisGoes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are asking The Last Question It's one of those short stories that you'll read once and think about it occasionally for the next 20 years

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

I don't understand this comment.

How is the sun not renewable?

Renewable energy means using renewable resources. Meaning things that either replenish themselves within a short enough period or things that produce massive amounts of energy over long periods of time.

[-] Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago

Because the sun is also a depleting source of energy. I question the definition of renewable that's all.

I would have never considered nuclear energy being renewable, but I guess a similar argument could be made.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The sun will exist for hundreds of thousands of years after humanity has gone extinct. The sun will exist for millions of years before it burns out. Humanity will thrive diminish and die before the sun dies.

It is by all intents and purposes an infinite resource for a finite species.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

The sun will exist for hundreds of thousands of years after humanity has gone extinct. The sun will exist for millions of years before it burns out.

Your timescales are off. Even if humanity lasts a very long time, which seems unlikely, the sun will last for billions of years after humanity is gone. In one billion years the sun will have become hotter so that life becomes impossible on Earth. There will be four billion years of a lifeless Earth before the sun expands into a red giant and either swallows up or cooks the Earth. One billion years after that the sun will kick off its outer layers into a nebula and become a white dwarf. At that point it's not reacting any more so it just gradually cools down over billions more years until it's just a cool lump.

[-] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Technically speaking, it does not renew itself. It is being slowly depleted. You are right in saying that we can treat it as a renewable source as far as us and our technologies are concerned.

[-] legion02@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Which is similar to the reasoning for calling fissile material renewable.

[-] theKalash@feddit.ch -5 points 1 year ago

The sun will eventually explode.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Long after humanity has ceased to exist.

[-] theKalash@feddit.ch 7 points 1 year ago

I'm quite certain we can manage to stop existing before nuclear fuel runs out as well.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is lemmy just stupid?

Like seriously?

The sun is an infinite resource to humanity. This isn't a debatable fact. Yet I seem to be receiving downvotes despite this.

The sun will outlive humanity a million times.

We can either harness it's energy and other sources like it or run out of energy.

It seems people just don't like the word "renewable"

That just makes those people stupid.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is lemmy just stupid?

Like seriously?

Lemmy at this point is the same as Reddit for quality of discussion.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The sad part is it seems like this has become a recent problem. As in the past few days.

I deliberately switched from sh.itjust.works to lemmy.world because I was sick of hexbear users starting fights and just being disingenuous with their arguments.

Now it seems that's normal everywhere..

[-] ProvokedGamer@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It’s not big enough to explode, it’ll have a heat death

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