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[-] Zorque@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Thats mostly due to lack of ability, not lack of desire. Do you think that if the socioeconomic positions were reversed, the current Iranian regime would have been any better than the US, or Israel?

You can quibble about death toll amounts and functional ability... but that doesn't change desire.

I do believe thinking in "equal to" terms needlessly belittles the death and destruction perpetrated by these tools... but only as much as quantifying them at all. These people are sick, twisted megalomaniacal dickbags who should be brought low. Sadly that only seems to happen at the whims of other sick, twisted megalomaniacal dickbags.

The best we can do is try and wedge ourselves into the cracks to push them all out of power while trying to stave off the opportunists who try and do the same.

And not bicker amongst ourselves about the level of evilness to quantify each by.

[-] Krono@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

Why does desire matter?

I have a desire to kill billionaires. Does that matter? Should I be tried for murder? No, because I'm not actually going to kill anyone.

Putting violent desire on the same moral plane as actual murder victims is a silly thing to do.

Do you think that if the socioeconomic positions were reversed, the current Iranian regime would have been any better than the US, or Israel?

In this hypothetical the details really matter, but in general I think no, the current Iranian regime would not be better.

I think a better hypothetical would be that, if the US never did a coup in Iran and overthrow their democratically elected government, and the socioeconomic positions were reversed, would Iran be better then? I think yes.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Why does desire matter?

I have a desire to kill billionaires. Does that matter? Should I be tried for murder? No, because I’m not actually going to kill anyone.

Putting violent desire on the same moral plane as actual murder victims is a silly thing to do.

hey someone gets it

[-] Jack@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Putting violent desire on the same moral plane as actual murder victims is a silly thing to do.

Agreed, but what if not stopping the IRGC ends up causing orders-of-magnitude more suffering and deaths? (Tho, is Trump actually unleashing the IRGC because Mojtaba gives them free-er reign than Ali; and causing some Iranians to actually side with their own psychotic countrymen against the attacking foreigners? If yes, then US voters may be more harmful than Iran.)

Would Hamas not be vastly worse than Israel if they had the same military power as Israel?

ISIS?

Shouldn't intent count to prevent access to biological and nuclear weapons?

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