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But historically, leftists in the strongest age of labor agitation have supported 'half-measures' that didn't bring about full socialism.
And that's why many leftist don't like the half-measures
... because they think accelerationism would have worked?
Modern incrementalists are not fit to speak of people who accomplish things other than genocide.
"Incrementalism is when harm reduction"
I see one of my tankie bootlicker fans has come to chime in. Sorry that I didn't want tens of thousands of Iranians murdered, while you view it as a price you're willing to pay for moral purity and absolutely no positive change.
And you view it as an acceptable price to pay as long as no one got to vote against the genocide you masturbate to.
Sorry that I've been calling out the Palestinian genocide for a decade-and-a-half.
I guess you weren't paying attention until recently.
As the best shit you've ever seen.
Sorry that you think calling out Israelis for genociding Palestinians is praise. I'd say I hope you get better, but I know fascist bootlickers never do. :)
Why should anyone believe you when all you do is carry water for people who sell them weapons?
Because genocide is bad, but I guess since I'm not one of your fellow bootlickers, you instinctively take the opposite position.
So why do you carry water for its arms dealers?
So why did I tell people that voting for the less genocidal of the only two realistic candidates was necessary?
Because I thought more support for genocide was a bad thing. Something you don't agree with, I know.
The election is over and you're still carrying water.
"Carrying water" here meaning "Defending the choice of harm reduction."
I get it already, you don't think that reducing harm is worthwhile. You don't have to belabor the point.
"carrying water" here meaning defending whatever any pro-genocide centrist does.
lol
You've always found genocide hilarious, yes.
PugJesus defending liberal capitalism and not really caring about genocide. What else, banned from blahaj.zone for transphobia?
And trying to hide behind the flimsy excuse of "harm reduction" while actually doing nothing to end the harm.
What these "lesser evil" arguments always ignore is that they never have any answer for how to actually prevent the harm from happening, just slow its pace. The end result is still that everyone ends up dead.
Harm reduction is mutual aid and community defense. Direct Action that materially changes the lives of the oppressed.
And yet the leftists accomplish nothing other than empowering the right through their weaponized political ineptitude. They are not fit to gatekeep liberals from political action.
Like all those elections liberals are winning. Oh wait.
😂 Leftists out here pitting the Dems into a two-front war because Dems didn't provide a post-pandemic Marxist revolution with a 50-50 Senate, then trying to say they should be winning more elections if they want support. Hysterical.
They did just in just the last 12 months expand a liberal supreme court majority in WI, have the first statewide wins in GA against incumbent republicans since 2006, flip a TX state senate district where Trump had won 58-41, and flip the FL state house district where Mar a Lago is.
But leftists:
Democrats should stop fighting the left, then.
They got the one thing you wanted done. They sold weapons for genocide.
That was one of the progressive candidates you hate.
You’re collapsing progressives and leftists and just making my policy positions up in your head because otherwise your point falls apart.
A progressive Democrat winning a red seat inside the party (as in working with and within the party like Rehmet did) is not proof that Democrats should “stop attacking the left.” It’s proof that better Democrats, even progressives in the party, can win and don't need to resort to attacking their own potential coalition partners in the rest of the party.
Also, if you have to rewrite my position as “I support genocide and hate everything that tries to upend the status quo” to answer me, you’re not rebutting me. You’re constructing a straw man.
and you're collapsing progressives and centrists.
I doubt there's much you would consider evidence that the party should stop attacking those to your left like they did with Mamdani.
I mean, the animosity didn't come out of nowhere. This has been going on for decades, and it's not progressives who betrayed the center.
This is another dodge.
I did not say progressives are centrists. I said Rehmet won as a progressive Democrat, inside the party, which is evidence for improving the party from within.
It is certainly not evidence that Democrats should stop pushing back against a left that attacks basically everyone to the right of dem-socs.
Even Mamdani undercuts your point.
He’s an actual dem-soc, but even he has tried to build a broad coalition, not just declare war on everyone to his right (despite getting called a bootlicker for his approach). He got support from progressives within the party and, after proving himself electable, eventually some more mainstream Democrats endorsed him too. And I hope he stays popular and his policies work, so support for progressive policies grows from there.
But Mamdani's process highlights exactly my issue with leftists who attack everything to the right of dem-socs. Mamdani is doing politics - even going so far to have friendly meetings/calls with Trump. Too many other leftists would rather practice the type of purity politics that only shrinks their ability to influence reality, then complain that dems are the ones who need to "do something."
With friends like these...
They should stop attacking everyone to the left of netanyahu. And so should you.
And the "no matter who" wing of the party lobbed Islamophobic attacks at him after he won the primary.
You’re on, what, straw man number four now?
You’ve spent this entire exchange inventing dumber versions of my argument because the real one is too hard for you.
My point remains that in the US winner-take-all two-party system, the leftists whose whole strategy is shitting on everyone to their right are not building power. They are helping the right. That’s why the people actually winning like Rehmet, and even Mamdani, are doing coalition politics, not purity-addled self-harm.
If you still need that distorted into “you hate everyone left of Netanyahu” to reply, that’s more a confession than a response.
Keep attacking. You expect surrender from your left.
Lol, what's left to attack? I'll leave you to your shadowboxing and delusions of persecution.
Cool. Keep supporting genocide then. It's all you're for.
Liberals don't take political action. They prevent it. With one notable exception, in which they get out of their own way.