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[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

I haven't seen it, but I've heard the premise involves inherently evil demons who use human's empathy against them, so you've got ontological evil + "empathy is a weakness" themes, which chuds love.

If the show is more nuanced than that (which I assume it is), don't expect them to pick up on that. If there's an obvious character / story ark that changes the whole outlook of the series, don't expect them to grasp that either.

That said, I'd like to take a moment to laugh at the kind of dorks who seriously act like their worldview is validated by a fucking anime. "This cartoon means I have a point, because a fictional race in a fictional series is specifically written to be the way I think black people and mexicans are!"

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 28 points 5 days ago

Most of the show's premise is a sleepy elf mom raising her autistic goth adopted daughter while traveling around to places she'd visited some 70-80 years earlier as part of a broader poignant reflection on time inexorably tearing away everything and how ultimately what matters the most are those fleeting human connections that happen along the way.

It's just there's also ontologically fascist demons who are some sort of fey predator species that preys on humans and other humanoid species. They're not handled in a very deep way which undermines the concept a bit, but everything they do is just stuff that actual fascists actually do and the demons' entire psychology is just literally what fascists actually believe and how fascists actually think about the world.

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago

Pretty much. It can be coopted because fascists love extrrninationist ideologies, but it's closer to a world where a Venus flytrap or other predator that uses guile to entrap prey evolved beyond humans. I haven't seen anything in the lore to suggest otherwise. They aren't ontologically evil they are literally "evil" like a tiger in the jungle.

[-] no_pretext@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

What about the demon kid that kills his family because he's a demon?

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

they're magical predators who by coincidence are humanoid and every interaction they have with humans and each other is only for the purpose of eating humans

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That makes plenty of sense in the whole "they are some sort of fey predator with completely alien morality" angle: the "adopted" demon knows that another family is angry because it killed their child during the battle; it understands this as having destroyed a possession of theirs, and views the situation as a threatening community figure having a grudge over property destruction which could endanger the demon; it attempts to smooth this conflict over by replacing the child with another, not understanding the social ties involved, and kills that child's parents to stop them from seeking revenge for this.

It's an alien, might-makes-right sort of morality where the demon, finding itself in a subordinate role, tries to placate threats because its entire social framework revolves around dealing out casual violence when possible and trying to avoid suffering the same.

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah it's like adopting a fucking chimp (not even a true predator that) and being surprised it killed you. Or grizzly man. I think it basically supports the thesis.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago

a lot of school shooters are fash.

[-] no_pretext@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Nah, the demons are just people in every way except for the ontological evil, and our main hero is on a crusade against them that has gone on for her while life

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago

If the show is more nuanced than that (which I assume it is), don't expect them to pick up on that. If there's an obvious character / story ark that changes the whole outlook of the series, don't expect them to grasp that either.

Thus far, there has not been a single demon that has shown regret, or compassion to their victims. There is some "material" analysis of demonic society, and that because they value might makes right (who has the biggest and most powerful mana and magic) they have not learned to collaborate and engage together. They only lie to humans and not each other. I think there's an indication that Demons saw Frieren hide her power level during a s1 episode, which means future demons might discover hiding their powerlevel, and thus have to engage in trust and collaboration.

Honestly, the series is not really about good vs. evil and fighting demons. But about love, mortality, doing good, and its consequences through the ages.

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