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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by RedWizard@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Several months ago I had a lot of ideas rolling around in my head regarding this idea of community, networking (social and electronic), and administration. It looked something like this and like this.

From a post I wrote on community:

As working-class people, as wage laborers, as members of physical and digital communities, there must be a way to reorganize our digital social lives so that we can bridge the gap between the global and the local. So much of the "local" is lost in the global digital sea. Hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of people all live within the local range of each of us, and yet the platforms we engage with thrust us into communicating with people hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of miles away. Much of this has to do with capital accumulation, you need to centralize as many people into your tent to maximize profits. This, in a way, is a form of capitalist encirclement. Our digital lives, and digital communities, are at the mercy of capitalist rule and often subjected to capitalist discipline.

I still feel this is broadly true. In the time since I made this post Hexbear has had its ups and downs, both social, and technical. We've nearly lost our domain address, we've had a fair few struggle sessions, we've debated the contradiction between posters and mods. We've seen new left communities emerge into our space, like the comrades at Anarchist Nexus. The social consciousness of places like db0 have made qualitative shifts leading to principled action to protect their community from fascists. Our own @TankieTanuki@hexbear.net is suffering from success, hosting our beloved TankieTube. We've seen the reputation of piefed (a competing solution in the Reddit-like space) have its reputation tarnished over a silly comment I made about how it works. I launched news.abolish.capital, which continues to deliver left news to roughly 50 Lemmy instances every day. I'm sure there is more I'm missing!

What this represents is a growing network of like-minded people, all willing to put in their own time, energy, and money, into building what I think can be called a Proletariat Network, or The Proletarian Web. An Anti-capitalist, revolutionary, network creating spaces that allow us all to communicate, educate, and uplift each other from across the world. We are a diverse, funny, skilled, and resourceful group of people to be sure!

I hesitate to prescribe what exactly The Proletarian Web is, because I think it is bigger then any single persons ideas. All I've done here is what amounts to branding. A logo and a title, to go with my observations.

I write this out as a kind of springboard. I'm currently in the process of finally putting a front page on the abolish.capital domain I bought several months ago. In doing so, it got me thinking about this idea again. I want to include a kind of, manifesto if you will, about what exactly "The Proletarian Web" is, on the site. I want to compile a list of communities and sites that constitute that idea. I want to build a hub that makes The Proletarian Web accessible to more people, to direct them to more places.

I think though, if I'm going to be doing something like that, I can't just rely on my own ideas. I think I need to hear from you, those who inhabit this space along with me. After all, this thing that is forming isn't doing so by itself in isolation. It is the accumulative efforts of all of us! I think whatever we describe The Proletarian Web to be, should be a reflection of the people who exist there.

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[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Okay, so like... What do? What about usenet? Is there a larger purpose to drive towards, like a digital counsel/committee for political action?

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

From my understanding, Usenet is only kept alive by media pirates these days.

As for a larger purpose? Maybe. I could see that happening. DB0 and a couple other instances I think created a kind of Democratic governance they call "the flotilla" which I think aims for some administrative parity and shared resources. Though, what I know about that is second hand.

I think this is all still vary nascent, and right now I think we have stability issues that need to be ironed out before something more superstructural is born from it. Right now Lemmy.sdf.org is in a bind because the operator is asleep at the wheel (from what I can tell). So, I think providing guidance on how to maintain technical and operational stability to community oriented services is a priority.

I see the enclosure of the digital commons coming soon. Age verification is the Trojan Horse that aims to ensure all corporate means of communication is sanitized and deanonymized going forward.

But long term I could imagine these spaces building digital counsel/committees for political action. I think that's a good aspiration for sure. What that looks like is currently a mystery to me. I think we need more regionalized spaces where we accept some amount of our offline identity to be know in exchange for a better medium for organizing in the real world. This could mean hosting more regional instances like Midwest.social.

I have a domain in my back pocket for my region, I would want to ensure it's set up in a way that doesn't leave the whole thing tied to me directly before doing something with it. That might mean incorporating an LLC for example. But at a minimum it would mean structuring things so that the site could continue operation if I was hit by a bus.

This kind of guidance would be part of what the proletariat network could provide.

But anyway, I'm rambling here. You raise a good question for sure. I think its something to shoot for.

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