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submitted 6 days ago by 64bithero@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I’m going to do my best to word this question carefully. I’m not privacy expert and maybe no more than an idiot. I do want to protect myself online.

Which led me to privacy focused cloud based premium solutions. The idea is you can pay for a service so they don’t need to serve ads and scan your data for profit. Services like Kagi , Proton among others offer services for a fee. These services let you pay with a credit card .

My question is , are these services really that private if they have your payment information ? Does it really make sense to pay to not be tracked but still have your information on file and linked to you ?

Is this more of an argument of privacy vs anonymity? Am I looking at this wrong ?

I understand the ultimate privacy is self hosted but for some things like search that limits options. I understand there is crypto for some of these options. But bitcoin isn’t cheap.

Curious to get others thoughts on this ? Please be respectful i am trying to learn…

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[-] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

nobody really needs that level of privacy unless they're journalists, whistleblowers, activists, or criminals.

Aside from services with limited, capped capacity, we all benefit from those services having a broader userbase. Quit gatekeeping the good shit that needs to be shared.

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Few people "need" that level of privacy. When you are both private and anonymous that makes the services very inconvenient and uncomfortable to use.

It's not gatekeeping to say "you don't need a home security alarm, just a good lock on your door is fine for most people".

[-] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Alright, how about for those of us noncriminals you listed 3 categories for?

Inconvenience is fine, so long as its doable.

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago

That's why I made the exception. I didn't say "nobody really needs that level of privacy unless they’re criminals". I said ...

Nobody really needs that level of privacy unless they’re journalists, whistleblowers, activists, or criminals.

this post was submitted on 24 Apr 2026
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