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submitted 6 days ago by 64bithero@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I’m going to do my best to word this question carefully. I’m not privacy expert and maybe no more than an idiot. I do want to protect myself online.

Which led me to privacy focused cloud based premium solutions. The idea is you can pay for a service so they don’t need to serve ads and scan your data for profit. Services like Kagi , Proton among others offer services for a fee. These services let you pay with a credit card .

My question is , are these services really that private if they have your payment information ? Does it really make sense to pay to not be tracked but still have your information on file and linked to you ?

Is this more of an argument of privacy vs anonymity? Am I looking at this wrong ?

I understand the ultimate privacy is self hosted but for some things like search that limits options. I understand there is crypto for some of these options. But bitcoin isn’t cheap.

Curious to get others thoughts on this ? Please be respectful i am trying to learn…

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[-] doodoo_wizard@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Here are two ways to pay for things without the payment method being a direct line to you:

Use cash. People will say stupid things like “I’m European and live in a surveillance state and they track the serial numbers!” Let me introduce you to something called “money laundering”. What you do is ask for change or for a big bill. You may need to be a normal person, like a customer of some sort, or a non schizophrenic shut in computer nerd if asking of some person (like a bartender getting off at shift change!).

Use a gift card. People will say stupid things like “well, they know you bought a gift card, so they can tie it back to you!” Again, allow me to introduce you to the vagaries of something called money laundering. Have someone else buy and activate the gift card. Heck, if you really want to be a weirdo about it, do it with your friends and put all your other person purchased gift cards in a fishbowl and draw random ones out.

Gift card stuff is something to poke and prod at first because different stores and cards have different ways of adhering to kyc.

this post was submitted on 24 Apr 2026
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