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Update: anarchist.nexus has been refederated
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After getting a better look at the background, this seems like a misstep.
Agreed that Luminous was not exhibiting behavior that seemed becoming of an admin (borrowing the terms of the db0 folks, they appear to be a bit of a "shit stirrer") but it doesn't look like there was any direct call to violence towards Kaplan, as this whole debacle seems to imply.
Luminous is no longer an admin, so I don't see why the defederation of anarchist.nexus needs to continue (given that its initial justification is already questionable). The main takeaway is that the admin team of Lemmy.world (or maybe just Kaplan, I don't know who all the admins are) seem to be taking criticism of Zionism personally...which to me sounds easily solved by simply not being Zionists.
So, if the LW team are not Zionists, I don't see why they shouldn't just come out and say so, but then I guess I don't see any other reason why someone would take a "death to Zionists" tagline personally.
Kaplan has come out and said so in this thread, denying being a zionist. The problem is from his perspective here are two things:
People like Luminous just won't believe him anyway. They tend to attribute zionist to a lot of people.
Kaplan doesn't like any kind of rhetoric like that, full stop.
In this case his actions speak volumes louder than his words.
Also seems bad rimu is emulating Kaplan here
Yep.
If the instigating reason has been removed from the situation, then why is this rollout contining?
What I have been seeing not only on .ml but by .nexus members in other places isn't just criticism of Zionism but shit like "there are no civilians in Israel" and calling Druze something along the line of "race traitors".
Links for proof?
Just look in memes@lemmy.ml and you will find plenty of proof. It isn't easy to miss.
Because Luminous both called the admin team Zionists and also placed a Swastika onto an icon of the FHF. It's like calling someone a "traitor" - it doesn't have to be true, it can just be a pretext to murder them regardless.
Also, people keep ignoring the fact that it's not merely the death threats levied against the admin team that are problematic, but rather the constant calls for murder shared from both AN and db0 users (as well as ML), although the call for the murder of specifically the FHF team does seem to be the straw that broke the camel's back here, regarding AN.
Just noticed nobody had corrected you on this. It was Deceptichum who placed a Swastika onto an icon of the FHF, not Luminous.
Constant, really?
Oh, thank you.
I would be willing to retract the word choice. Something along the lines of being problematic to the admins of LW to not want to have to deal with them?
Ironically the Swastika coming from a second person besides Luminous helps to illustrate that point, where it was not just a single person, even an admin. Of course, I am not an admin myself, so all I am really saying is that it seems believable to me that the LW is stressed out of their gourd by all the attacks from people saying that they want to kill them. It makes sense to me to want to block them, without having to to through each community one-by-one. Moreover, then subsequently having to constantly maintain that as new ones emerge.
Death threats have that effect upon people. Sometimes the recipients simply... get tired of receiving them?
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I stand by what I originally said. It wasn't inflammatory, but don't have enough fucks to give to deal with the inevitable replies.
I literally do not understand the point of that edit at fucking all.
They like drama but can't handle it