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[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

If you can't afford it then pirate it. There is no victim so I really see 0 reason not to.

"it's not yours" is not valid. Who owns it then? Disney? Why does Disney deserve to own it any more than you? They didn't put in any work to make it, the actors, directors, vfx artists, writers, producers, camera people, etc etc made the film. How come they don't own any of it?

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

"it's not yours" is not valid.

Huh? The legal system would politely disagree.

Who owns it then?

For the USA look it up in the USPTO database (USPTO = United States Patent and Trademark Office) or in game's EULA.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

You specifically chose one sentence from my argument and anilised that while ignoring all of the context around it.

Do you understand there is a difference between what is legal and what is ethical and sometimes the law can be unfair or unethical?

I still dont see any issues in a victimless crime.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You specifically chose one sentence from my argument and anilised that

Two sentences.

And I find copyright infringement still unethical. Because you are taking what's not yours, and the thing you're taking - is not some vital resource type you're taking out of desperation. It's a game.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Two sentences.

I stand corrected.

Because you are taking what’s not yours

But does the legal owner deserve to own it and profit off it? Again I ask you, do you understand the difference between what is ethical and what is legal.

It’s a game.

Piracy extends to all forms of media and software, not just games. I believe media is still incredibly important to a persons development. Media in all forms is a way to learn from other people and create a deeper understanding of how the world works. And taking that away from something because they don't have the means to access it legally is not right. On top of this people deserve to have fun, and taking away peoples opportunity to have fun just because they don't have the means to access it legally is also not right.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

do you understand the difference between what is ethical and what is legal.

What is ethical to one - isn't for another. That's why we have a legal system.

On top of this people deserve to have fun, and taking away peoples opportunity to have fun just because they don't have the means to access it legally is also not right.

Who will pay for game development and distribution?

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

What is ethical to one - isn't for another. That's why we have a legal system.

So we should just accept the law as it is and assume the law is always right? Im here to debate ethics and question the law. Arent you here to do the same?

Who will pay for game development and distribution?

We have already stated that they can't afford to by the game and therefore wont be buying the game no matter what. Regardless of weather they pirate the game or not no money is going to the game license owner.

So to answer your question who will pay for development and distribution? Not this person.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So we should just accept the law as it is and assume the law is always right?

Yes. And to change the law you should vote and press your representative to change the laws.

Im here to debate ethics and question the law.

It's pointless, because the legal system is governed by laws, not by our conversation.

So to answer your question who will pay for development and distribution? Not this person.

Do you find it fair, that someone should pay, but not "this person"?

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Look I'm sorry I don't have the time or patience to deal with this level of ignorance. You should really read a book or go talk to a homeless person to find out how liberal political systems really work.

[-] Viceversa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

A game is not some vital thing, like air, food or home.

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