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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I love how you just assume here that you're making some novel arguments here. As if I'm not familiar with them. Pretty rich of you to call other people campist too given the whole context for this discussion.

You still failed to explain what we’re actually seeing on the left. It’s visually indistinguishable from green capitalism, so you failed in using a picture to promote whatever the PRC is doing.

Except I literally did explain this in the very comment you're replying to. I didn't ask you to watch a video because I'm actually able to articulate my thoughts like an adult with a fully developed brain:

You’re just doing sophistry here. The whole idea of state capitalism is a bit of a misnomer. It basically says that while you have state owned enterprise, the internal capitalist relations within it remain largely the same. While that’s true, there is a fundamental difference here. Capitalism is a system where people who own capital hire workers to exploit there labor with the purpose of increasing their capital. The goal of capitalist enterprise is to create wealth for the owners with any social benefits being strictly incidental. On the other hand, the purpose of state enterprise is to provide social value. Workers in state owned companies are producing things that the society needs. They are working for their own benefit and those of others around them. Therefore, the nature of work itself is fundamentally different from actual capitalism. And it’s very obviously a huge step forward from capitalism.

I love how you completely ignored this and just proceeded to regurgitate the talking points you memorized like a parrot.

TIL tha green LEDs will safe the environment. /s

Oh look more dishonesty from a troll. Let's look at what I actually said:

China is literally at the forefront of clean energy, mass reforestation, and desert greening.

Weird how you choose not to engage with that.

Edit: Lol, you posted the first thing you found when you googled Zapatista dissolution, didn’t you? The Zapatistas restructured their autonomous approach. They didn’t abandon autonomy. They still exist, therefore they didn’t fail.

Oh yeah they did restructure to make their system more centralized and to add *gasp* hierarchy because they're not anarchists or zealots. They were actually able to honestly look at what they were doing acknowledge the problems and move in a direction that makes more sense. Precisely the thing western anarchists are unable to do.

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