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[-] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

AI is an amazing tool for fascists.

Annihilate private access to computing, censor and rewrite all comms, destroy free software and the last remnants of education...

Every single decision made for evil.

And all these vendors who are locking themselves into one customer are about to learn why that's a bad idea.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The worst thing is that when used for good AI is fantastic! Scientific progress with purpose built AI to find planets, predict the weather, and tons of pattern matching has been in use for decades with positive benefits!

Even LLMs can be a useful tool in the right situations where looking like words people would say but accuracy is NOT important.

The problem is trying to use LLMs to do everything and failing while running the tech industry, the environment, and soon the economy into the ground. They took something positive, ruined it and coopted the terminology while shoving it down everyone's throats.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sorry but I'm so done with hearing about how cool and useful the knife that they're plunging into our necks is.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe try reading my comment again?

[-] cadekat@pawb.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not here to argue for or against LLMs in general, but self-hostable AI is a thing. Actually open AI is a thing.

A blanket statement saying about AI as a whole technology being good for fascism is about as useful as saying "roads are good for fascism" (they're great for troop movement after all).

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

You can't self host anything when the hardware is no longer affordable.

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

I recently saw a Hacker News article on people running some Deepseek V4 Flash variant on macOS, which is a surprisingly capable model for its size

[-] ugjka@lemmy.ugjka.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

Self hosting an llm ain't the same thing as self hosting nextcloud for your docs and calendar. Yes there are small models but their output is laughable

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Small models are improving and becoming more capable. The quality of local LLMs is basically unbounded. The context size of local LLMs is bounded by hardware. So local LLMs can be very capable for small, self-contained tasks.

qwen 3.6 35b running locally:

Write a Python script that can pull weather data from public sources and provide the high and low temperature for the current day in Miami, FL.

Single shot. No tool/internet use, so it didn't pull this script from elsewhere.

import requests

def get_miami_weather():
    # Miami, FL coordinates
    LATITUDE = 25.7617
    LONGITUDE = -80.1918

    # Open-Meteo API URL (free, no API key required)
    url = (
        f"https://api.open-meteo.com/v1/forecast?"
        f"latitude={LATITUDE}&longitude={LONGITUDE}"
        f"&daily=temperature_2m_max,temperature_2m_min"
        f"&timezone=auto"
    )

    try:
        response = requests.get(url, timeout=10)
        response.raise_for_status()  # Raises error for 4xx/5xx HTTP status codes
        data = response.json()

        # Index 0 corresponds to the current day
        high_c = data["daily"]["temperature_2m_max"][0]
        low_c = data["daily"]["temperature_2m_min"][0]

        # Convert to Fahrenheit (commonly used in the US)
        high_f = (high_c * 9/5) + 32
        low_f = (low_c * 9/5) + 32

        print("🌤️  Miami, FL Weather for Today:")
        print(f"High: {high_f:.1f}°F ({high_c:.1f}°C)")
        print(f"Low:  {low_f:.1f}°F ({low_c:.1f}°C)")

    except requests.exceptions.HTTPError as http_err:
        print(f"❌ HTTP error occurred: {http_err}")
    except requests.exceptions.ConnectionError:
        print("❌ Error: Could not connect to the weather API.")
    except requests.exceptions.Timeout:
        print("❌ Error: Request timed out.")
    except requests.exceptions.RequestException as err:
        print(f"❌ An error occurred: {err}")
    except KeyError as key_err:
        print(f"❌ Error parsing data: Missing expected key {key_err}")
    except Exception as err:
        print(f"❌ Unexpected error: {err}")

if __name__ == "__main__":
    get_miami_weather()

Output:

% python3 ./m_weather.py
🌤️  Miami, FL Weather for Today:
High: 88.0°F (31.1°C)
Low:  73.2°F (22.9°C)

I tried to keep the size and scope within something that would reasonably fit in a comment. Looks pretty decent to me, but I can't write Python myself. Never learned. I double-checked the LAT & LON of Miami, and it's spot on.

It did take 47 seconds, while a cloud LLM would probably take 5 or less.

All I'm saying is local LLM isn't garbage and it is getting better all the time.

[-] rimu@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

That's interesting.

How much ram did it use while running?

If you used a GPU, how much does it cost in today's prices?

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's a MacBook Pro. 36GB of ram. I am sure Macs have some kind of gpu and I understand it somehow combines GPU ram with system ram, but I don't really know Mac hardware very well.

It's beefy for a laptop, but the desktop I built for myself several years ago had 32 GB of ram and a GTX 1660, so I'm guessing they are similar in capability. I gave that to my daughter, so I can't run a comparison right now.

EDIT: After doing just a bit of research, I've learned the unified memory architecture that Macs use, while not ideal for many purposes, is actually a big advantage for running larger inference models. So it's possible that this particular model wouldn't run at all on my Linux box or would run much slower because the full model wouldn't fit in the 6GB of VRAM and create a lot of memory thrashing.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yup, you want memory accessible to the GPU for local AI. AMD Strix Point and Mac devices are popular options. CPU can run LLMs but very slowly. I've got 32 GB of RAM and 8 VRAM and it's borderline useless for models that don't fit in the VRAM.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

You see hot that's tangential to what you're replying to?

Ai is evil

LOCAL AI is not all evil

Computers are expensive

Your point is completely valid, but in another discussion.

[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sorry, but I think the point about local AI not necessarily being evil is the tangent here.

The OP is about motherboard shortages, which is being driven by the big AI companies and is making hardware unaffordable for normal users

The top level reply to that is about how that's bad because it removes the ability for people to be in control of their own computing

Then someone comes in, saying "yeah, but you can host your own AI so that it's not evil so not all AI is bad"

Then someone points out that you can only host your AI if you can afford the hardware to do so which, as the OP and the comment you replied to pointed out, is getting really hard to do.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

if you did not understand the comment from above it's fine but splitting hairs like you are doing is silly (everybody knows it's not 100 % of AI is 100% evil)...

your comment is exactly the same as when people say "guns don't kill people, people kill people"... yes, we all know guns are not autonomously killing people, the point is that guns, as a tool, are remarkably good at doing something we do not want, which is to kill people

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not to go on a separate tangent, but that's the entire point of guns. They are supposed to kill. That's not meant to be some crazy conservative defense of them or opposition to regulating them. Just pointing out something that seems to get lost in conversations.

[-] brendansimms@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Corps want to privatize roads and make them all toll roads too

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