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[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

There was no need for a treaty because there weren’t any tensions between Ukraine and Russia, Ukraine also expressed no ambitions to join NATO until the coup, you get that right? All the problems started after the coup.

Let me get this right, all the experts are warning about NATO expansion putting pressure on Russia, but Russia is feeling no pressure from NATO expansion. All the experts are warning about it! But there's no tension. Again, you're just saying that ex-Soviets are severely stupid and incompetent, because apparently this was a big deal since 1997, but also no big deal until 2014. Your timelines are incoherent.

In what universe is Russia is tearing itself apart exactly? Russian economy is growing, the government has higher approval rating than pretty much any western country, and Russia managed to refocus its trade away from the west. Even mainstream western media is openly admitting all this now.

Lol, I would approve of my government if disapproving meant being thrown out of a window.

You know what, you're right. Russia is doing great, we're going to see a massive victory over Ukraine and the war will be over. Any day now.

The reason US emerged as a global hegemon out of WW2

Obviously the US had a huge economic advantage, explain how that economic advantage leads to the extreme geopolitical incompetence of ex-Soviets. The incompetence that means they can't from treaties, they dangle like a puppet by NATO strings, and start wars they can't finish.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let me get this right, all the experts are warning about NATO expansion putting pressure on Russia, but Russia is feeling no pressure from NATO expansion.

I don't know what part of this you're having trouble wrapping your head around. Ukraine was a neutral state that did trade with both Russia and the west and wasn't joining any military alliances with either side. If you have some new information nobody knows about that contradicts this then feel free to share it.

Again, you’re just saying that ex-Soviets are severely stupid and incompetent, because apparently this was a big deal since 1997, but also no big deal until 2014. Your timelines are incoherent.

Nowhere am I saying anything of the sort, these are just your delusional ramblings.

Lol, I would approve of my government if disapproving meant being thrown out of a window.

You'll have to forgive me, I keep forgetting I'm talking to a child.

You know what, you’re right. Russia is doing great, we’re going to see a massive victory over Ukraine and the war will be over. Any day now.

How do you think this war is going to end exactly?

Obviously the US had a huge economic advantage, explain how that economic advantage leads to the extreme geopolitical incompetence of ex-Soviets.

What extreme geopolitical incompetence are you talking about exactly? Last I checked, Soviets managed to fight against your despotic regime for over 70 years.

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t know what part of this you’re having trouble wrapping your head around. Ukraine was a neutral state that did trade with both Russia and the west and wasn’t joining any military alliances with either side. If you have some new information nobody knows about that contradicts this then feel free to share it.

It's not about just Ukraine. You're so narrow, it's like you can't engage with my points outside of a pre-programmed response. Russia could be forming treaties with ANY and ALL neighboring countries. There is (almost..) no reason not to. If NATO has the geopolitical savvy to expand with treaties, what is stopping Russia. That's what you need to figure out.

You’ll have to forgive me, I keep forgetting I’m talking to a child.

Lol, do you deny the high rate of people falling out of windows in Russia?

How do you think this war is going to end exactly?

Likely not for years, and either Russia will back out, or they will successfully genocide the people of Ukraine and take the bombed-out land.

What extreme geopolitical incompetence are you talking about exactly? Last I checked, Soviets managed to fight against your despotic regime for over 70 years.

"Soviets managed to fight" you mean ex-Soviets, because the USSR is kaput. Plus all the NATO territory expansion, the US empire growing its collection of vassal states, extracting and growing its wealth. That is your story, not mine. What does Russia have to show since 1991?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

It’s not about just Ukraine. You’re so narrow, it’s like you can’t engage with my points outside of a pre-programmed response.

I think you've made a self referential comment here.

Russia could be forming treaties with ANY and ALL neighboring countries.

What is this then ignromaus? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization

Lol, do you deny the high rate of people falling out of windows in Russia?

Seems lower than the rate of people being murdered by cops in US, but do go on.

Likely not for years, and either Russia will back out, or they will successfully genocide the people of Ukraine and take the bombed-out land.

Weird way to say Russia will protect people in Donbas from the fascist regime your country is sponsoring.

What does Russia have to show since 1991?

Aside from having a growing economy, and being part of BRICS which is now a bigger economic bloc than the entire west you mean?

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

What is this then ignromaus? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization

Exactly, now explain why NATO is overwhelmingly more successful in expanding its alliance. Why does 80% of Ukraine's population support joining NATO instead of SCTO?

Weird way to say Russia will protect people in Donbas from the fascist regime your country is sponsoring.

Oh right, protection is when you genocide the majority to protect the minority.

You have a literal despot who has not relinquished power in over two decades leading an invasion, bombing cities, shooting civilians, and raping their wives and daughters. Tell me more about what you know of fascist regimes.

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