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[-] Mihies@programming.dev 3 points 8 hours ago

Aren't they technically correct, though? Please spare me with Russia bad, I'm talking technically.

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Every definition of piracy I've seen includes the fact it's a crime. Lawfully seizing a ship therefore isn't piracy.

Now there are varying opinions on whether this detention is legal or not, but personally the Russian government is one of the last organizations I would trust in determining that.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'm not a legal expert, but this definition sounds like it

(a) any illegal acts of violence or detention, or any act of depredation, committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or a private aircraft, and directed: (i) on the high seas, against another ship or aircraft, or against persons or property on board such ship or aircraft; (ii) against a ship, aircraft, persons or property in a place outside the jurisdiction of any State;

Now there are varying opinions on whether this detention is legal or not, but personally the Russian government is one of the last organizations I would trust in determining that.

Sure, we are talking about piracy in general, not Russian opinion.

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

(a) any illegal acts

That's the single critical part on which the remainder of that definition rests.

If a court operating within the confines of the law declares an act legal, then it is to anyone that subscribes to that system of law.

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's not for private ends, the sanctions on Russia are gery very public.

[-] i078@europe.pub 8 points 8 hours ago

Depends, if the ship is sailing as russian and has all paperwork in order. Sure it might be piracy.

More likely however, it’s doing shady shit and that’s a known factor before the boarding.

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

No, detaining a ship and then a state government having to admit that yes, it is actually theirs isn't piracy, because no wealth or resources were taken from the ship.

It has forced Russia to admit something though.

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

Not sure whether I follow, can you elaborate? If one detains a ship in international waters under Russian flag full of oil or whatever, how is this not a piracy? And if it is not, then what it is?

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It wasn't "under a Russian flag"... hence them having to admit that it was their ship after all.

It is under European sanctions though, as Russia invaded Ukraine. That's why they've been running a "shadow fleet" in the first place. Because their are sanctions against Russian ships and trade. Sanctions from a federation of counties against the war.

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