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Gram Planter is going to be done in by his cheating. Liberals and the media will hold water for a war criminal mercenary with nazi tattoos but draw the line at incivility, amazin. (hexbear.net)

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[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 days ago

There was an incredibly frustrating thread where libs were treating voting for Platner like the most important thing ever. Like, y'all, he had an SS tattoo, and was a blackwater guy. At least temper your expectations

[-] danisth@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago

Super rare good take from a .world user:

A lot of folks here are too young to remember this, but back in my day there was a democrat senator from Pennsylvania called John Fetterman. When he ran for this position, he was hailed as a new kind of progressive. Gave off serious working class vibes, wouldn’t wear a suit, and ran a really progressive ticket. He had a bit of an iffy past, involving threatening a black jogger with a shotgun, and fighting to gentrify the town of Braddock when he was mayor there. And of course, he had parents who were business owners who bought his political career for him. But we were told to ignore this, because he was saying a lot of progressive stuff now, and because the person he was running against was ostensibly worse (a tv doctor I think).

Anyway, he got elected, and the unimaginable happened: the guy who acted conservatively in the past, was acting conservatively in the present too! Even though he’d said he’d changed his tune and was a progressive now, he was supporting conservative legislation, and even enthousiastically supporting the genocide Israel is committing in Gaza (although it’s hard to find a democrat who doesn’t).

The Plattner situation reminds me of this. Rich parents, iffy past (3 tours of joining the illegal invasion of Iraq, and one in afghanistan, mercenary after, an actual, honest to god, I’m not making this up, nazi tattoo on his chest), and iffy present (he’s calling people who participated in the war crimes committed in Fallujah[1] “war heroes” in campaign interviews). It’d be kind of cool if we could learn from history instead of repeat it.

I>nb4 the greybeards bring up Obama and his progressive campaign.

[1] they besieged the entire city and cut off its water and electricity supply. This is a war crime. Imagine being an elderly or disabled person who cannot leave the city – these are the kinds of people targeted by this attack. This is the kind of stuff Israel does in Gaza that makes legal scholars say that they’re committing a genocide. Anyway, the folks that did this are war heroes, apparently.

Of course all the replies are that it doesn't matter we just need to vote

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Of course all the replies are that it doesn't matter we just need to

Yeah In one discussion someone called me privileged for saying that not every election is the most important election ever.

When I suggested they consider the inverse, that being able to invest the energy to focus on every little election in a decaying pseudo -democracy, instead of having to organize for your immediate material interests is what's privileged, I got a non-response, and a bunch of downvotes ¯\(ツ)/¯

Libs really are something