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President of the United States everyone
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While I agree especially for Obama, I'm not quite sure that holds with "we finally beat Medicare" Biden. Especially towards the end.
More than a little ridiculous to claim Biden's misspeaking during the debate is in any way comparable to "they're eating cats and dogs".
They're eating cats and dogs was straight demagoguery. It's like the Nigerian prince scams. It was rational for him to say that. Horrible, but rational.
Biden was in bad shape the way that a grandpa who has been running the family hardware business for fifty years gets a little bit confused about whether or not he called the guy about fixing the leaky roof, but by God grandpa is going to be at work seven days a week selling wrenches and screwdrivers and absolutely fucking refuses to take a vacation, let alone retire, even though there are younger people who are more than ready to take over.
Trump is in bad shape like a football player who got drafted out of high school, was hustled through his college classes on the basis of his football scholarship, and then took so many blows to the head that his brain looks like a dried lotus pod.
Neither is good, but there is a meaningful difference.
There is a difference between cognitive decline and just being a racist piece of shit.
"Beat medicaid" was cognitive decline. That wasn't a misspeak. His brain was mash potatoes that entire debate. That was just the funniest one. The really pathetic "sad slow confused old man" one's aren't as memorable.
Trump saying "eating cats and dogs" is literally just him being a racist piece of shit. That wasn't cognitive decline. Unless you think JD vance is showing old age cognitive decline.
Having said all that. They are both racist old white men with signs of dementia. The counter example you gave is just not a good example for Trump.
The difference is that Biden actually surrounded himself with competent people. Trump surrounds himself with enablers.
yes, but this is nothing new. Reagan was basically cognitively absent in a significant portion of his last term, and many believe his wife essentially took the role of the presidency. This has been talking point among democrats for decades now, so there was a lot of "revenge" coping going on with Biden. His cognitive state is not truly known. The books, like Tappers, have provable false information them. However those within the west wing at that time have things against their stated evaluation on Biden's competency. We, unfortunately, have no idea how bad it was, and all the outpouring of statements against him, and in his defense, are too full of intentional disinformation to really know, at this point. I imagine that some years from now there will be information that comes to light that cuts through a lot of this obfuscation, and we will have closer answers. Right now too many parties have interest in it being not known. I think if there was clear records of his decline in the records from the white house, Trump would be parading them around. So we shall see.
He could actually speak coherently. Are we seriously comparing a couple gaffes with a constant stream of sentence fragments?
Biden's final debate performance was pretty awful. Seemed lost a couple times. Nothing like the guy who had debated Paul Ryan years before. It was so bad that he had to drop out.
He looked like a tired old man in that debate. Good grief, i will never understand why everyone points at that debate as if he wasn't lucid.
Simply doesn't fit the narrative that the only acceptable old politician is Bernie.
He never seemed "lost", he seemed hoarse.
https://youtu.be/2wf1eA3QUC4?t=31
He doesn't look lost. It looks like he's someone with a well known stutter stumbling over his prepared talking points. And getting flustered over it because it's a very public event.