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this post was submitted on 06 Sep 2023
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Seems to me you are making a lot of assumptions. You see sexual abuse, I see four frames that could be me and my wife. In either role.
It's a four panel comic. Why you would choose to decide that consent is absent, and also decide that everyone else has to feel the same way, is beyond me.
That's all well and good, but there's no reason except your own baggage to apply that to this comic.
The more I read your replies, the more I think this is really about your own negative feelings towards women, more than a legitimate concern regarding sexual abuse against men.
Did I use the word incel?
But hey, if that keeps happening to you, maybe don't keep saying things an incel would.
We're all individual people in the end, it's not a team sport.
Good day, Sir.
Probably because there is much less likelihood that the male is being physically forced to do this.
Heck, if you want to go into who in society is typically in roles of power, there's also much less chance of the guy being coerced to do this by power dynamics.
That doesn't address my response at all - are you in agreement with it?
Which of my statements do you disagree with?
Do you think men aren't likely to be physically forced into giving head by a woman?
Do you think men aren't likely to be forced into giving head to a woman by power dynamics?
I noticed that you're conflating what is portrayed in this meme with being groped or touched.
That's a big wall of text that doesn't answer my questions - can you answer them directly? You can provide as much context as you feel necessary to explain your yes or no answer, but please provide a yes or no answer so I fully understand where you stand.
Oh I read it, but it simply didn't answer my question. You provided context, sure, but ultimately did not state a conclusive answer, and across two, maybe three comments now? you are still unable to answer my simple questions. We're not exactly discussing the meaning of life here.
Do you think it is likely for women to physically force a man to give her head?
I feel like that's a simple enough question, since it's isolated to physical means. Which gender typically has more strength? Which gender typically has more means to threaten with violence?
Further dodging the question will only suggest the extent of the mental gymnastics you're going through to avoid cognitive dissonance.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. I'm not going to bother anymore if you refuse to answer a simple question.
It's not that serious bro
So you aren't angry about the comic, you are angry about how you speculate people would react if it were a different comic.
https://lemmy.world/comment/3175160
Not the exact same post but similar enough
I don't think it's manipulative to suggest that you should wait for that actual comic to exist, and then argue with the people reacting that way, instead of manufacturing an assumption that no consent exists here, and then being upset that everyone else doesn't also pretend that's a factual representation of the comic.
My only complaint is that you seem adamant that only you have the correct interpretation of this simple comic. If you said "wow that comic seems like this" to me, without taking it to the level of "and every single other person needs to interpret it the same way" we'd be having no discussion.
We're about 30 secs from having no discussion anyway.