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[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 94 points 2 days ago

Ha ha, "looks like he's going to call HR for inappropriate contact"

For the record, there has never been a documented attack of a healthy wolf on a person in North America. Obviously if they get rabies or distemper or something all bets are off.

[-] Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

You are wrong. Candice Berner, Kenton Carnegie and Marc Leblond were all deemed to have been killed by healthy wolves.

There have been at least 24 non-fatal wolf attacks by healthy wolves since 2000 in north America alone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wolf_attacks_in_North_America

[-] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)
[-] Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Teyrnon is wrong because they claimed that there are no documented attacks of a healthy wolf attacking a person in northern America. In fact, there have been three lethal and 24 non-lethal documented attacks by healthy wolfs since 2000 in north America.

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

One of the fatalities is this

Wyman was a wildlife biologist who worked as a caretaker in the Wolf Centre section of the Haliburton Forest & Wildlife Reserve. She was killed by five captive wolves on the third day of her employment.

There's a bunch of captivity based attacks that were not fatalities.

Most of the attacks were solitary joggers, hikers, dog walkers etc that would have been triggering a chase instinct. One of the incidents was ambush on two people:

Noah was awake and talking to his girlfriend when a lone wolf attacked from behind, biting his head. He kicked, screamed, punched, and grabbed, and it ran off. He was taken to the hospital, requiring 17 staples to close a large head wound and to get precautionary injections. Authorities killed the wolf the next day and sent the body for rabies and DNA testing. The wolf tested negative for rabies but was diagnosed with deformities and brain damage.

It's not completely out of the question that a wolf was investigating a nice smell, and after getting the prize left. Definitely fits the pattern of the animals slowly acclimatizing to human activity. That wolf wasn't dangerous then, but it would become dangerous.

[-] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 12 hours ago

Yes, "no xyz" is usually an overstatement. Your counterargument seems to suggest wolf attacks are common, however, which they are not.

[-] Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Not common, just possible. OP's story is incredible, not impossible.

[-] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 93 points 2 days ago

There's also never been a documented case of a wolf contacting HR

[-] Kimjongtooill@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago

There would be NDAs involved, so take that data with a grain of salt.

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 23 points 2 days ago

That's because HR will anonymise the contact data before publishing

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 days ago

depends on how many furries are in your company

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

that may be true but you should consider that HR departments are notorious for failing to document complaints from members of socially-disadvantaged groups

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Another element that could be at play here:

He thought it was a dog.

Dogs, because we domesticated them, have muscles around their eyes, that allow them to make eye/eyebrow expressions.

Wolves do not have these. Because they're the ones we did not domesticate for millenia.

So, if he was expecting dog expressions... wolves literally cannot make the same facial expressions.

They essentially always look like they have RBF, in comparison to a dog.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

It's thought the species we domesticated was distinct from wolves of today. That species went extinct in the wild.

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 5 points 21 hours ago

Interestingly some dog breeds also still lack those muscles, like huskies

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

Huh! You're right, I did not know that.

Huskies are... much closer to being actual wolves though, genetically speaking.

Seems like this applies to malamutes and samoyeds as well...?

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 4 points 19 hours ago

I wonder do dingoes have them. I haven't been able to find any information on that yet

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

My, ahem, blind guess would be probably not, as they've... not been widely and thoroughly domesticated for 20,000+ years?

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago

Oh the genetic confirmation for dingoes to have arrived in Australia is about 8000 years ago these days. So it's about when did the extra muscles evolve and in which genetic lines? Dingoes and the new guinea singing dog are traced to have come from the wolves domesticated in Asia, so I guess they wouldn't have them unless they evolved independently or the genes spread before they got separated in Guinea and Australia? But then do japanese breeds also not have them since they're from the same lines probably? I don't know, there's just too little information online. Or if there's more, I can't find it

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

No idea what the more precise timeline is, for when and where dogs started having eyebrow muscles.

Maybe if we did something comparable to the Human Genome Project, but for dogs, we could figure it out, lol?

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

There have been documented healthy wolf attacks in North America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wolf_attacks_in_North_America

Some on the list are rabid, but the list also includes both captive and predative wolf attacks, including fatalities.

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